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Old 06-27-2012, 08:03 PM   #1
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Default Stretch Mini 450 and Protos 500

Hi, Just wanted to know if the Stretch Mini and the 500 fly much different. I have a Stretch Mini Protos is it worth buying a Protos 500 ?

My other Heli is a Logo 600SE.

I have a Logo 500SE I need to build yet.

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Old 06-27-2012, 09:05 PM   #2
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Well, you can never have too man helis...BUT, if you're trying to be practical then no, I wouldnt bother with the 500 if you have a stretched miniP already
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:44 PM   #3
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The P500 is way more powerful, but less agile.

Also flies much bigger and is much easier to see.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:40 AM   #4
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Thank you, someone said the 500 eats batteries ? They only get 3.5 min. Flights ?
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:42 AM   #5
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Well, you can never have too man helis...BUT, if you're trying to be practical then no, I wouldnt bother with the 500 if you have a stretched miniP already
Thank you !! I should finish my Logo 500SE. Maybe wait for the Proto 700 and see what it looks like.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:53 AM   #6
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Thank you, someone said the 500 eats batteries ? They only get 3.5 min. Flights ?
Not more or in different fashion than 450.

I can fly gently(1) with my Protos with 2600mAh battery for 8-9 minutes. On the other hand slightly harder(2) and to push battery to its capacity after only 3 - 3:30.

At each occasion to return around 1800-1900mAh to the battery.

(1) - circuits, pirouettes, piro-circuits, gentle funnels all upright or inverted and all with around 2000 RPM head speed.
(2) - elevator and even better aileron tic/tocs and full collective rainbows and similar - all at around 2900RPM head speed.

Now when I think about it - it is similar to 2200mAh 3S on my MT... Actually - I think it is slightly more compressed with Mini Titan: 4-4:30 of hard flying with slightly over 3000RPM HS vs 7-8min on 2200RPM of gentle flying.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:24 PM   #7
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Thank you, someone said the 500 eats batteries ? They only get 3.5 min. Flights ?
6s 2500 Gens Ace here and I get 4:30 of hard flying. Matt
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:39 PM   #8
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I fly a stretch 500 on 3300s, and get 6min while putting back ~66%. I am just light sport flying @ 2600rpm while trying to dial in my machine and test the tail.

Another Prôtos owner here flies the plastic on 2600s, I believe, and he easily gets 8 min. I'm not sure of his HS, but I think it's lower than mine.


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My mini is 6s and I get 5 min no problem. Easy flying right now.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:28 PM   #10
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I have a stretch mini and as soon as I get the brain and make sure I like how it flies I am building a (streched) 500 as well. Love the design of these helis

Now we just need MSH to make a 550, i dont really want a 12S setup just now...
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Put VBar on my mini and it flies great !!
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:25 AM   #12
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If you are looking for a bigger help yes it is worth it.the stretch mini is still only 70% of the p 500. I have both and love em. after flying my mini stretch for about 2 weeks every day and ignoring my 500 i flew my 500 and almost scared me! A lot more power then the mini. Good pair to have. And no it does not eat lips. 6 min ave. And mine is stretched also
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:44 AM   #13
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On brand new 6s lipos I was getting 7 minutes with my packs coming down around 85F or so. Using a 14t pinion, governor off and idle up goes from 60% to 80%.

I still have lots of power and its my most agile heli, only bogs a little on climbouts.

If you run a conservative head speed you can run the belt a bit looser and that will give great flight times. Also using 2650 or even 2800mah 6s packs will add 30 seconds to a minute.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:21 PM   #14
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Don't mean to thread hijack but quick question... Whats the average crash cost dif and parts broken in a crash between a p450 stretched and a p500 stretched(not counting electronics)? Gonna get a 450/500 and have one (or both) be a nice beater heli and wanna know if there is a significant diff or not.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:29 PM   #15
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Don't mean to thread hijack but quick question... Whats the average crash cost dif and parts broken in a crash between a p450 stretched and a p500 stretched(not counting electronics)? Gonna get a 450/500 and have one (or both) be a nice beater heli and wanna know if there is a significant diff or not.
I'm not seeing a huge difference in parts costs. Blades cost more, but everything else is very comparable.
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:48 PM   #16
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The heavier the heli, the bigger the hole in the ground and your pocket after a crash...
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