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View Poll Results: T-Rex 600 efl PRO or Fusion 50 FBL?
T-Rex 600 efl pro 25 27.78%
Fusion 50 fbl 57 63.33%
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:04 PM   #21
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Having owned both, I would tell you to get the pro. The Fusion leaves a lot to be desired. Battery placement is terrible for one and the gears just suck, even after redesigning them. Had a bunch of failed bearings after a few flights as well. Outrage's QC stinks. Uses the old push pull linkages with the annoying elevator bracket. Flight characteristics are so-so as well.

The Pro is great in many ways, easy battery swap, direct servo to swash, low profile and it just kick ass in the air. I enjoyed every minute of that heli and I regret selling it. I flew it at various head speeds with no issues and if you are a crazy stuck banger, you'll be flying at 2400 anyway. Its right at home there too.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:08 PM   #22
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I hate my fusion and love to death my 600 pro
+1 just terrible
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:51 PM   #23
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What's wrong with the battery placement? I only ask because it's one of the things I really like about the Fusion. I can change packs so quickly and easily without having to remove the canopy.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:12 AM   #24
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What's wrong with the battery placement? I only ask because it's one of the things I really like about the Fusion. I can change packs so quickly and easily without having to remove the canopy.
Exactly...

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Old 07-06-2012, 04:19 AM   #25
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Yeah, I would not take his advise on a bird. His set up was so messed up initially it was a not wonder he hated it. He was trying to fly a 600 class bird on a mCPx motor... Or something like that.

Either way, you can't go wrong with the Fusion. You will be VERY happy with it. Get off the Trex bandwagon and try something new. You will be satisfied.
ROTFL, I have to admit. That was pretty funny, It wasnt a MCPX motor btw, its was scorpion 4035-630 i believe. But now it has a 700m. In a thread like this, to each his own. I setup my 600pro once and havent had to change anything yet. My F50, not the same, due to both pilot error and the manufacturer. Personally advice is just words that people give from their experience. If you truly want to know which is better, buy both and see.Or see if a fellow pilot will let you fly theirs. Just a thought.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:35 AM   #26
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Dante... make up your mind man, one day you hate this heli, next thing you know you love it because you got it set up correctly... now you hate it again. People make mistakes, were human... somebody sent you the incorrect parts that's all. I hope you get it all straightened out soon and I feel your frustration... but I think you are overly exaggerating the situation here.

Most of your prior issues were setup issues, you even admitted to it. Incorrect LiPo's, gearing, head settings, etc...

Most of us in here have had a great experience with this heli... my Fusion has over 40 hours of flight time on it without a hitch. All I ever get is complements at the field on how smooth this thing flies.
That's true to a certain extent. You're telling your experience as well as I am telling mine. But, if you want to use the "we're all human" line, welll its kinda hard to say that when ever since i bought the bird up until now, every single replacement part (and im not exaggerating) for the bird has either been, incorrect/deformed/mislabeled, or as in case of the frames when i purchased the kit, not even built correctly. That's got nothing to do with me. Now the setup part, yeah, that was ALL ME! But IMO after watching both fly and flying both I like my 600Pro alot more.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:31 AM   #27
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What's wrong with the battery placement? I only ask because it's one of the things I really like about the Fusion. I can change packs so quickly and easily without having to remove the canopy.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:10 AM   #28
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That's true to a certain extent. You're telling your experience as well as I am telling mine. But, if you want to use the "we're all human" line, welll its kinda hard to say that when ever since i bought the bird up until now, every single replacement part (and im not exaggerating) for the bird has either been, incorrect/deformed/mislabeled, or as in case of the frames when i purchased the kit, not even built correctly. That's got nothing to do with me. Now the setup part, yeah, that was ALL ME! But IMO after watching both fly and flying both I like my 600Pro alot more.
Nothing wrong with liking the Pro more.... you are just making the Fusion out to be a heap.

You still havenít elaborated on all of these defective parts other than the frame sides (which I am not challenging you on, happens) and the incorrect tail part which was sent to you. Which other parts?

The "only human" comment was referring to the fact that a human packaged that part and made a mistake, it was not a defective part... but the incorrect part.

Your 600 is an FBL heli right? Setup is all electronic... on the other hand, your F50 is flybarred, and this particular FB head (unlike any Align head in existence) has many different setup options. You set your head up incorrectly... itís not an issue; itís a setting which is meant to be tuned. I re-set my head 5 times before I got the setting I wanted.

If you donít like the Fusion that's just fine, but donít sit here saying itís a piece of garbage.
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Nothing wrong with liking the Pro more.... you are just making the Fusion out to be a heap.
And vice versa with the Fusion owners. Only the Fusion owners have been replying in defense while people that own the Pro just post their response to the OP.

Post your opinion and be done. If someone posts that X sucks because X, it's an opinion that particular poster has. No need to take direct offense.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:56 AM   #30
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Well this is the Fusion forum, what do you expect.... FWIW, never said a bad thing about the Pro, it’s a good heli. Quieter than the fusion too.

LOL, not taking offense... just pointing out that Dantes experience is skewed because of setup issues.
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Post your opinion and be done. If someone posts that X sucks because X, it's an opinion that particular poster has. No need to take direct offense.
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Nothing wrong with liking the Pro more.... you are just making the Fusion out to be a heap.

You still havenít elaborated on all of these defective parts other than the frame sides (which I am not challenging you on, happens) and the incorrect tail part which was sent to you. Which other parts?

The "only human" comment was referring to the fact that a human packaged that part and made a mistake, it was not a defective part... but the incorrect part.

Your 600 is an FBL heli right? Setup is all electronic... on the other hand, your F50 is flybarred, and this particular FB head (unlike any Align head in existence) has many different setup options. You set your head up incorrectly... itís not an issue; itís a setting which is meant to be tuned. I re-set my head 5 times before I got the setting I wanted.

If you donít like the Fusion that's just fine, but donít sit here saying itís a piece of garbage.
Actually my 600 is FB just as all my heli's are. I'm not going to go into the other things that are defective as this is not my thread. All the "setup" issues are a thing of last year as all have been fixed, but the manufactures defects still remain.

Note to thread started, which ever bird you decide to purchase, have you thought of your setup? 10s 12s? Motor, esc and so on?
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:49 AM   #32
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And vice versa with the Fusion owners. Only the Fusion owners have been replying in defense while people that own the Pro just post their response to the OP.

Post your opinion and be done. If someone posts that X sucks because X, it's an opinion that particular poster has. No need to take direct offense.
Sorry Heli.. and I know you.. And you me.
I did own both and disliked the Pro..

Sure it's a good heli..
but it is motor, servo, and blade limited and battery size limited. as well as extreme headspeed it doesn't need.

The Fusion is a Speed/Big air flyers dream.. its fast agile precise and easy to build and setup.

Accepts large blades up to 640mm stock.. accepts oversize 700E size motors with ease.
and accepts over a 4000ma packs with optional tray.

I am still flying gears from my last crash over a year ago.. so there is nothing wrong with the gears.

24 large helis from ALL different brands over the last 6 years and this is for sure in the top 3.

BTW remember the HUGE difference in experiences we had with our N9s.. you loved yours and I hated mine.. it was the biggest heli mistake I ever made.( other than the Ebay HBK2 i started with LOL)

So I'll qualify my recommendation..
if you like smack hard 3d and insane headspeeds Go Pro..
if you want a larger 600 that is smooth fast big air bird with a 700E class motor and large packs go Fusion,
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #33
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:04 PM   #34
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Dude, don't even get me started about Synergy. Huge mistake...

I respect your opinion though and we agree to disagree on different matters.

My point was that when some posts, why take direct offense to it?

Plus, posting this in the Fusion forum was a mistake. Should have been in general.

Anyway, if you want a good read, pm me and I'll tell you all about Synergy.

BTW, getting a Goblin.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:17 PM   #35
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My top tip:

Do not ask what is best or is a better that b, you will get a load of duff answers by and large. Yes, some will have flown various different helicopters and have a very informed opinion, most don't and even those with experience with loads of different brands will prefer x over y due to their own personal preferences- not yours.

So:

Work out your budget and then think about what features you like on a helis that fall within the budget and prioritise them (e.g. TT or belt, easy battery change, parts availability etc)

This will allow you to create a shortlist of helis

From the short list read their respective forums to find out how good they are, what their faults are etc. Ask pertinent questions such as 'how much problem are the TT gears now causing'. Very quickly you will be left with either 1 or two main helis- read a bit more and you will find the best heli for you.

I did this and ended up with the Fusion. I am convinced that this is undoubtedly the best 600 bar none- but for me.

Very fortunately, if you make any choice from any of the recognised brands such as Align, Outrage, Compass, Synergy, Beam, Mikado etc, you WILL have a fantastic machine and WILL be very happy with it.

For what it's worth, I chose the Fusion because I am a TT fan, I love the size of it, I love the battery setup, it was within budget, it seemed so so versatile with various motor types and blades from 550-640 and when I bought it, there were not that many around.
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Dude, don't even get me started about Synergy. Huge mistake...

I respect your opinion though and we agree to disagree on different matters.

My point was that when some posts, why take direct offense to it?

Plus, posting this in the Fusion forum was a mistake. Should have been in general.

Anyway, if you want a good read, pm me and I'll tell you all about Synergy.

BTW, getting a Goblin.
I honesty hope you like the goblin.

I like my goblin. But I love my synergy and loved all my fusions.


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Thanks, we all have our opinions right.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:23 PM   #39
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Little confused here. People say that the fusion has better battery options than the 600pro. Exactly what battery can you put in a fusion that you cant put in a 600?
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:22 PM   #40
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With the KDE tray, you can fit 2 6S 5300mah 30C Gens Ace.
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