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Hey gang,
Just re building my old trusty 450SE, from a few years ago, just refresh my memory...What headspeed does the 450 like for basic sport flying, circuits, etc.? Got a 11 tooth pinion in it with stock motor..And if the tail wags a bit with higher headspeed, I want to turn UP the gain on a 401 gyro to stabilize it, right? Thanks for any help/ideas... Dr Franz in NJ
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tick Fever, Idaho
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With the 11T pinion........at 0 degrees of pitch using 325mm blades the RPM should be around 2800.
At 8 degrees of pitch the RPM is around 2240. These are book values at 100% RPM I'll let somebody else deal with the Gyro question |
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Thanks, was just looking for a % on the throttle curve...Been used to flying my Trex500 with 80-85% throttle in Idle 1 , and just looking to see what % I should use with the 450...Maybe I'll change the pinion to get a faster headspeed with lower % curve so that I can program it like the 500... Just trying to simplify the setups to avoid confusion...
Thanks again... Dr Franz in NJ
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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It depends a bit on what motor you are running, but assuming a 3500kV and 3s;
3500 x 11.1 x 0.9 x 11T / 150T = 2564rpm at 100%. Obviously because I have used 11.1V, it would be towards the end of a flight, so if running a 100% throttle curve it would start off a bit higher. I would think that just flying circuits, you could run from 2500rpm (I use this for scale type flying), and up to 2700rpm for light sport flying. I would suggest a 12T pinion. I never really liked my GY401, but if it is just sloppy, then you could try a higher gain - up the gain until it just starts to wag, and then drop a couple of points. To get rid of a wag, you would generally drop the gain a little. Of course, it could just be a loose tail due to low headspeed if you are running, say, 85% throttle curve with an 11T pinion. Colin
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Thanks for the ideas and info Andy
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