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Old 09-11-2012, 07:19 PM   #1
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Default Walkera Hoten X Review and Devo 10 Transmitter Review

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Walkera HM Hoten X Quadcopter - 200 size brushless quad - 4 Channel














First Impression:

WOW! This is huge! I can't wait to fly it.




First Flight:

I charged up the battery and took it outside for my first flight.
I was expecting it to be very loud but it wasn't.
It has a low pitch sound to it.

I lifted off and hovered it around for a bit to see how it handles and how stable it is.
It is very stable! Even more stable than my Ladybird QR.
This is my second quad. I was able to fly it pretty easy the first battery pack.
Just need to get use to the big size and power of it.

I set the Sensor Setting - Voltage - External: V1- Alarm Voltage to 7.5V.
This give me 3.72V per cell no load which is pretty good.



Overview:


The Quad feels like it is built well.
The landing gear is wide and sturdy. It has 4 rubber tips on the ends of the landing gear.
Motor booms feel strong and the motors feel like they are mounted securely.
Canopy feels strong.
Battery tray holds the battery in very well.
It has 4 bright LED lights. Two in the front and two in the back.
The front two are white and the back two are Red in 6 axis mode and Blue in 3 axis mode.
The lights help you see the quad from a distance and help you with the orientation. Also the lights
look good at night.
The two orange props are big and bright. You can see them from a good distance away
which helps you with orientation.
Battery life is good. About 10 minutes which is very good for something this big using 4 BL motors.

It has a telemetry feature so you can monitor your Quads battery voltage but you must upgrade
the firmware to use this feature.


The first thing I was concerned about with a Quad this big was safety. Being cut with such
a big prop powered by a BL motor.
I posted a question about this. The answers were good to know.

See post # 419 and below.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...693774&page=28

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...693774&page=29

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=448










Pros:
  • 3 axis mode and and 6 axis mode
  • 4 bright LEDS - Two in the front and two in the back
  • Brushless motors
  • Long flight time (10+ minutes)
  • Firmware can be updated
  • Ultra stable, responsive, and smooth flying
  • The Quad can be seen from a good distance away due to the size of it, the bright two orange props, and the 4 bright LED's.


Cons:
  • Doesn't use a standard battery plug. It uses a HXT 2mm connector. See picture below.mm
  • Telemetry feature won't work unless you update the firmware. You will need to buy adapters to do this and download firmware from Walker's web site.







What is in the box:

ARF Package
  • Hoten-X Quadcopter
  • 7.4V, 1000mah, 25C, 2S Lipo Battery
  • Battery charger
  • Spare blades (4 of them total)
  • Two battery cable adapters
  • Plastic RX post adjustment tool
  • User Manual on a CD
  • Bind plug
  • Allen key

Weight:


Quad: 268.5 grams.

Quad with battery: 332.3 grams

Battery: 63.8 grams





Specifications:




1). Main Rotor Diameter:186mm
2). Transmitter(standard): DEVO 7
3). Gyro:6 Axis Gyro
4). Overall Lenghth:266mm
5). Transmitter(Option): DEVO 10/8S/7E
6). Brushless Motor:WK-WS-26-004
7). Fuselage width:266mm
8). Receiver:RX2635H-D
9). Battery:7.4V 1000mAh Li-Po
10).ESC:WK-WST-16A4

1). Product type: Quad-copter in 200 size
2). Recommend Environment: Outdoor
3). Experience Level: Intermediate
4). Latest 6-Axis Gyro Control system provides super stable flight
5). Brushless motor system ensures more powerful and fantastic flips and rolls flight
6). The RX firmware can Update Online (required UP02 upgrade cable and adapter )
7). Telemetry Function(require to update the firmware and a telemetry function radio is a must)
8). The simple and compact modularized design, easy to install and maintain




Final thoughts:


Walkera did a good job with this Quad. It looks and feels like it is made well. Flight time is very good.
Power seems good for a Quad of this size and weight.
This will be great with a camera on it. I am looking into getting one for this and will add information and videos to this review.





I will be adding more information, pictures, videos, and updates to this review so check back.



Hobbyone sent me the Hoten-X, Devo 10 TX, and UP02 + UP02 Adapter Package to review at my request.
I normally always buy the products that I review but there are too many of them so if an offer is made to get
a Helicopter, Quad, or TX to review I will take it so I can cover more products.
The condition is that I can do an unbiased review on the product to give it a good or bad review.

Thanks Lena for sending me the samples to review.

http://www.hobbyone.com.hk/cn/produc...d=11179&cid=43

http://www.hobbyone.com.hk/cn/product.jsp?id=11083

http://www.hobbyone.com.hk/cn/product.jsp?id=11125





Transmitter Setup Guide:

I have these posted in my Walkera TX/RX Setup Guides Sticky.

http://helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=60



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Old 09-11-2012, 07:20 PM   #2
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Default Walkera Devo 10 Review

The Devo 10 is really nice. It feels good in my hands and the joysticks feel smooth.
I am using a 3S Lipo in mine so it is lighter which is great as it takes 8 AA batteries which make it heavy.
The LCD screen resolution is high and it contains graphs like the WK2801-PRO. LCD screen can be viewed in daylight.
It has Telemetry features which include voltage, temperature, rpm and GPS.
Firmware can be upgraded with an adapter and firmware on Walker's web site.
You can load model settings for different modles from Walkera. You can also export model settings.
It has a vibration alarm which is a great feature.
The menus are easy to work your way through. I was programming it as fast as my WK2801-PRO.
There are a lot of features in this transmitter and at a great price.


Tom
















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Old 09-11-2012, 07:20 PM   #3
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Default Walkera UP02 Upgrade Tool and the Walkera UP-02 adapter

The UP02 Upgrade Tool/UP-02 adapter worked well for me.
I updated the firmware on the transmitter for my Devo 7 and Devo 10,
Imported/Exported models for each of the transmitters,
and updated the receiver firmware for my Hoten X, Ladybird, and Mini CP.


See my post for How to update firmware on the Devo TX/RX and How to Save/Load Models.

http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=453134



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Old 09-13-2012, 06:01 AM   #4
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Your good! Great review!
I used your QR ladybird settings to start and pretty got to the hotter settings.
Mine are close to what you have and I was going to try 150 trvad from the 120.

I am wondering how these higher setting effect the FC? On servos you could kill them but this is a voltage change? Microvolts, but still...pretty much why I stopped at 120. Untill I saw your new post, I was just going to live with how yaw was slow and in hard spins throttle needs lots movement, ladybird can hold AGL except in windier condictions, on my x650, (12" blades) it will spin with little throttle depending on how much aileron and elevator and again wind gusts causing lift, or taking it away.

These little quads have helped my on the big one, and instead of using the xaircraft PID's I'm trying more tx changes, but that's me being lazy. If tx changes work I'll go back in to xair enter and make FC changes.

Any ideas on walkera getting a program for FC tuning on the hoten and ladybird and mx400, UFO5, UFO8? I looked at walkers forum and product web page but I may have missed any reference.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:49 AM   #5
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Thanks.
I don't know what FC stands for.


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Old 09-13-2012, 01:06 PM   #6
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Flight controller, on the two walkera's i have,walkera does have the two cable to upgrade, one for TX and both for RX, how far is that from being able to tune the board by changing gains for xyz axis, changing gains for accelerometers...PID (PROPORTIONAL,INTEGRAL, DERIVATIVE) on my xaircraft it use this USB cable to this USB device to cable to the Flight Control...it looks just like the USB dongle I got to talk to a arduino.

I'm just high, thinking walkera is going to have GUI for flight control settings or changing cross to plus flying, setting still picture rate, or vid frame rate on walkeras famous 3xxxxxx camera, changing min/max angle for ff ( fast forward flight )

I am making this harder than it should be, this aircraft type is not use in real life, well a close second is the mars lander with rockets he he, and even than turned out to cause damage to the frenchs wind sock ( ok not wind sock, but very precise anometers ) and the real second use in real life in these guys and girls making movies and real estate shots, which was the first reason I thought I could get into this hobby real estate and land management photography. Ah man, never would have thought it was almost impossible to do.

He he I'm headed to put on Ingnored list. I'm sorry.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:01 PM   #7
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Flight controller, OK got it now.

I haven't heard anything about walkera getting a program for FC tuning on the
hoten and ladybird and mx400, UFO5, UFO8. Walkera is progressing fast in
technology so I would expect to see some great things coming out.

The smaller quad helped me also with a bigger quad.

Post any questions you have. That is what the forum is for.
If one person can't answer, someone else will.



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Old 10-18-2012, 02:43 AM   #8
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Default DEVO 10

What's the range of the rx1002? will this be compatible with rx1202 as well? Any glitches, brownout/lockout issues yet? will it support 6V/7.4V? Do you have any info on latency and frame rate that this one can support? tx

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The Devo 10 is really nice. It feels good in my hands and the joysticks feel smooth.
I am using a 3S Lipo in mine so it is lighter which is great as it takes 8 AA batteries which make it heavy.
The LCD screen resolution is high and it contains graphs like the WK2801-PRO. LCD screen can be viewed in daylight.
It has Telemetry features which include voltage, temperature, rpm and GPS.
Firmware can be upgraded with an adapter and firmware on Walker's web site.
You can load model settings for different modles from Walkera. You can also export model settings.
It has a vibration alarm which is a great feature.
The menus are easy to work your way through. I was programming it as fast as my WK2801-PRO.
There are a lot of features in this transmitter and at a great price.


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Old 12-31-2012, 08:49 AM   #9
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Default Devo 7 and Hoten

I'm looking for a good setup with the Hoten X with the Devo 7 (or similar) including Throttle and pitch curve, D/R, etc. I'd like to be able to switch between normal and stunt.. Anyone? I'm sure someone has this setup and has it working well. Please...Thanks!
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:29 AM   #10
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Default Lipo upgrade

I was wondering if anyone can recommend a lipo higher "C" rating that will fit in the battery holder. I'm looking for something that will give the Hoten-X more "pep."
Thanx,

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Old 03-19-2013, 02:09 PM   #11
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What's the size comparison with the mQX? I'm looking at getting something bigger than my ladybird. I was thinking about building a tricopter, but am daunted by the fact there are no real kits, I could buy an expensive pile of parts only to find they don't work together. I like the fact the hoten has an optional camera.
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