Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect
START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > Blade Helicopters (eFlite) > nano CP X


nano CP X Blade nano CP X Helicopters Information and Help


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-13-2012, 11:55 AM   #1
RobO
Registered Users
 
Posts: 729
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Richland, WA
Default Blade nano CPX vs Axe 100 cp

I've been flying the blade for several weeks now and got tired of replacing motors so I bought an Axe 100 cp to see if it would do any better, here are my impressions:

The Axe 100 cp is more stable than the nano, it is easy to hover in a very small space. The head speed on the Axe seems lower and it feels heavier, not nearly as responsive. My setup on the Axe is as follows:

Radio - Futaba 9C
Collective pitch endpoints at 80%
Roll and pitch endpoints (ch1 & ch2) at 140% - maxed out
Idle up 2 throttle curve at flat 100%
10% expo on cyclic pitch and roll

With this setup it takes alot of space to roll or pitch the Axe to get inverted and catching it with collective bogs it down quite a bit. It tracks well in forward or backward flight but in the stock configuration it is not a good 3D machine. I know Nick Maxwell makes it look easy but I am struggling to fly this thing hard.

I think the electronics and hardware are much better in the Axe than the Blade but the Axe needs more power! I think with a brushless motor the Axe would rule the micro heli 3D world!

As it is the Blade nano cpx is a much better indoor 3D heli, just need to go brushless with it or accept changing out the stock motor on a regular basis.
__________________
You don't have to be the best pilot to have the most fun!
RobO is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 03:42 PM   #2
Excalibur3
Registered Users
 
Posts: 4,280
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Carmel,ny
Default

Plus I think you need something special to fly the axe with a Spektrum radio which costs like $50. At least that's what I was told at the LHS. Also they only had the RTF version for $300. I'd rather have two nanos.


HK250SR,Blade 450 3D,Blade 450 X,DX6I, Phoenix V4, Blade Nano CPX
__________________
TREX 700 Pro DFC HV, TREX 550 Pro,GOBLIN 570 Futaba 14SGH
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Excalibur3 is online now        Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 05:20 PM   #3
RobO
Registered Users
 
Posts: 729
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Richland, WA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Excalibur3 View Post
Plus I think you need something special to fly the axe with a Spektrum radio which costs like $50. At least that's what I was told at the LHS. Also they only had the RTF version for $300. I'd rather have two nanos.


HK250SR,Blade 450 3D,Blade 450 X,DX6I, Phoenix V4, Blade Nano CPX
The AnyLink adapter is $25 and will work with Spektrum. I got the Axe 100 cp from Tower for $129.00 after discount, I paid $149 for my nano.
__________________
You don't have to be the best pilot to have the most fun!
RobO is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 06:23 PM   #4
Excalibur3
Registered Users
 
Posts: 4,280
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Carmel,ny
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobO View Post
The AnyLink adapter is $25 and will work with Spektrum. I got the Axe 100 cp from Tower for $129.00 after discount, I paid $149 for my nano.
So all together it's $15 more



HK250SR,Blade 450 3D,Blade 450 X,DX6I, Phoenix V4, Blade Nano CPX
__________________
TREX 700 Pro DFC HV, TREX 550 Pro,GOBLIN 570 Futaba 14SGH
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Excalibur3 is online now        Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 07:32 PM   #5
JCarter
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tempe, AZ
Default

Is the axe flybarless?
JCarter is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 08:22 PM   #6
edjo69
Registered Users
 
Posts: 363
 

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Fort Collins
Default

I flew the AXE 100 CP tonight at the LH. It flies nice, very stable, flybarless, really good power, more than a nano that's for sure (idle up has a less aggressive throttle response), it is closer in size to the MCPX though bigger than a Nano. The TX in the $200 kit is actually pretty nice, digital trims, 5 point curves, expo, d/r and a mix and 5 model memory, WOW!! Much nicer than the 4xe TX. I almost got one for the TX so I could use it with these stupid little quad copters that are infesting my garage.
__________________
MSRX, Nano CPx (2), 130X (5), 300X
DX8
ZX 1400
edjo69 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 08:36 PM   #7
Ampdraw
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia. We live inverted.
Default

Axe 100 is a rebranded Nine Eagles 125A
http://www.myrcmart.com/nine-eagles-...ry-p-4809.html
Not sure if they changed the protocol re tx's etc

It is better compared to the Mcpx as it is very similar in size.

Comparison thread of Mcpx size helis here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1603239

Amp
Ampdraw is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 11:42 AM   #8
rototophe
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: France
Default

It is indeed a re-branded Nine Eagles Solo Pro 125.

I own 2 of these, they are very nice, extremely stable. Decent power with stock motor, I converted one of them to BL using a HP03S 1660Kv as main motor with a 7mm tail motor and it's all the power I need with that bird.

Still the nano fit better in my living room, too bad the motors are just crap on the nanos. Quality control issues? Or they just want to sell us as many motors as they can? I talked to HH rep complaining that my motor was going to hell after 25/30 flights, he told me that was not uncommon and "acceptable". Unbelievable!!!
rototophe is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 03:19 PM   #9
RobO
Registered Users
 
Posts: 729
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Richland, WA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rototophe View Post
It is indeed a re-branded Nine Eagles Solo Pro 125.

I own 2 of these, they are very nice, extremely stable. Decent power with stock motor, I converted one of them to BL using a HP03S 1660Kv as main motor with a 7mm tail motor and it's all the power I need with that bird.

Still the nano fit better in my living room, too bad the motors are just crap on the nanos. Quality control issues? Or they just want to sell us as many motors as they can? I talked to HH rep complaining that my motor was going to hell after 25/30 flights, he told me that was not uncommon and "acceptable". Unbelievable!!!
I'm just not happy with the stock motor, it boggs easily, how about some more detail on your BL conversion! How easy was it and how much more power does the BL produce?
__________________
You don't have to be the best pilot to have the most fun!
RobO is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 07:39 PM   #10
rototophe
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: France
Default

Here is some pictures of my SP125 brushlless conversion.

Supplies list:

- HP03s 16600kv
- 9T, mod 0.5, 1,5mm pinion
- Oversky PNP 10A ESC flashed with Blheli --> signal negative
- carbon fiber 0.8mm thick plate for motor mount
- 7mm tail motor and 7mm aluminum tail motor mount with carbon fin (cheap from hawk-rc.net)
- solid 2mm carbon rod for tail boom, 2cm longer than stock
- Insulated Kynar wire for tail motor wiring

Notes:

It is necessary to make a motor support plate for 2 reasons:

- First to raise the motor so it will actually fit where it's supposed to be, the bevel on the SP125 frame at the motor mount make it impossible to fit the motor without raising it. I tried the other way around trying to getting rid of the bevel around the motor location ---> not viable, trashed a main frame .

- Second because the distance between the mounting holes on the HP03s (or a HP05s for that matter) is shorter than on the stock motor since it's actually the motor heat sink that act as mount. Making the plate the right shape was the most annoying step in the conversion. Once it is shaped to fit and drill appropriately everything else is cake. Pictures will give more details than many words.

Remarks:

The 10A ESC is overkill for that motor I plan on replacing it with a XP3A with upgraded FETs as soon as I figure out where to tap the negative main motor signal on the board. If anyone can help with that it would be greatly appreciated.

The HP03s 16600kv gives a lot more power than stock without being too intimidating, enough to fly 3D easy and to fly packs back to back without worry. I governed it to 62% ATM and I get 3min with the 35-70C Nanos. I am pretty sure the HP03s 13500kv would do just fine for sport flying and a little 3D on this bird and will yield long flight times.

Cheers!






rototophe is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 10:05 PM   #11
Excalibur3
Registered Users
 
Posts: 4,280
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Carmel,ny
Default

What Heli is that


HK250SR,Blade 450 3D,Blade 450 X,DX6I, Phoenix V4, Blade Nano CPX
__________________
TREX 700 Pro DFC HV, TREX 550 Pro,GOBLIN 570 Futaba 14SGH
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Excalibur3 is online now        Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 11:40 PM   #12
Ampdraw
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia. We live inverted.
Default

Um Solo Pro 125 as mentioned earlier.

Amp
Ampdraw is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2012, 03:15 AM   #13
Tony777
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Canada
Default

Despite all the negative rebranding talk, it seems based on the online reviews that the Axe 100 CP flies quite well and parts are more reasonably priced as compared to both the nano and mCPX.

Any more feedback from anyone else?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampdraw View Post
Axe 100 is a rebranded Nine Eagles 125A
http://www.myrcmart.com/nine-eagles-...ry-p-4809.html
Not sure if they changed the protocol re tx's etc

It is better compared to the Mcpx as it is very similar in size.

Comparison thread of Mcpx size helis here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1603239

Amp
Tony777 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2012, 03:47 AM   #14
togy
Registered Users
 
Posts: 596
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sweden
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rototophe View Post
It is indeed a re-branded Nine Eagles Solo Pro 125.

I own 2 of these, they are very nice, extremely stable. Decent power with stock motor, I converted one of them to BL using a HP03S 1660Kv as main motor with a 7mm tail motor and it's all the power I need with that bird.

Still the nano fit better in my living room, too bad the motors are just crap on the nanos. Quality control issues? Or they just want to sell us as many motors as they can? I talked to HH rep complaining that my motor was going to hell after 25/30 flights, he told me that was not uncommon and "acceptable". Unbelievable!!!
On my old walkera 3#4b this happened if you flew pack to pack and not letting it cold down for a few minutes.
__________________
--
GAUI X5, Align 450PRO, Blade NCPX
togy is offline        Reply With Quote
Reply




Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > Blade Helicopters (eFlite) > nano CP X


nano CP X Blade nano CP X Helicopters Information and Help

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Copyright © 2004-2011 - William James - Helifreak.com