Mounting CSM Cyclock on Logo 500 / 600

Wenlock · 11-23-2007, 06:12 AM

Has anyone found a neat and tidy way to mount all those little black boxes? I'm struggling to find places to mount everything.

So far the best layout I've found is:
Rx and Cyclock stacked next to elevator servo
Tail gyro (401) underneath tail servo (hope I never need to get at the Limit pot)
Roll cyclic gyro (SL720) on bulkhead next to tail servo - very close to tail gyro
Pitch cyclic gyro (SL720) looks like it'll have to go behind the elevator servo on a custom bracket

And the wiring, when I get it all plugged in, is going to look like an explosion in a spaghetti factory.

Has anyone come up with a better solution to this 3D puzzle?

Eyon · 11-23-2007, 06:28 AM

V-Bar

Wenlock · 11-23-2007, 09:08 AM

I know, but then what would I do with all those spare gyros?

OICU812 · 11-23-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wenlock

I know, but then what would I do with all those spare gyros?

Liquidate for price of V-Stabi

j/k man,, I dunno. I have not heard of anyone who has run the Cyclock period on a Mikado machine, simply because the V-Stabi is out and works so well on it.

Ticidytoc · 11-23-2007, 01:00 PM

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And the wiring, when I get it all plugged in, is going to look like an explosion in a spaghetti factory.

Exactly the reason why I have the V-stabi in mine.

stevehonn · 11-23-2007, 04:12 PM

Th Cyclock works pretty well on my 500. The aileron gyro is just behind the mainshaft fixed to the vertical surface in front of the elevator servo, it's a little tight but it's out of the way. The elevator gyro is fixed to the side of the elevator servoand the cyclock unit is behind the elevator servo, it all manages to fit inside the canopy.

Wenlock · 11-24-2007, 06:37 AM

Aha, good thinking Steve! I never thought of using that bulkhead in front of the mainshaft.

You don't get any vibration problems from mounting a gyro on the elevator servo?

Thanks for the great idea, I'll go and have another shot at it.

Ian

stevehonn · 11-24-2007, 05:04 PM

Not vibration problems at all, I actually got this layout from Tean who posts on Heliaddicts and Runryder. I've not tried a V Bar setup athough I've seen plenty as the whole Mikado team was using them at 3D Masters but comparing flight performance with the CSM setup I can't justify spending the extra cash just to save a bit of space

Wenlock · 11-25-2007, 06:21 AM

I have to agree, the V-Bar gear may be tidy but the price is a bit too salty!

Doug101 · 11-25-2007, 06:32 PM

I don't understand the price problem. In the USA a cylock and 3 sl 720's would be about $650.00 if bought in a package. Much more seperately. The vStabi electronics are $699.00. A $50 saving doesn't seem like much to me.
Doug

Wenlock · 11-26-2007, 01:51 AM

If you're starting from zero, then the difference in price isn't too much, but I already had a 401 lying around to use on the tail. In the UK a V-Bar system (without air pressure sensor) costs the equivalent of $1000. A complete CSM package with 2 SL720s costs the equivalent of $600, so the saving was around $400, not $50.

It's looking more likely that I'll give the V-Bar a try on the next build.

Doug101 · 11-26-2007, 03:25 PM

If you already have the tail gyro then of course it is cheaper. At $1000 for the vStabi without pressure sensor I sure would consider ordering from the USA. It;s funny how these things are priced for different markets. Sometimes in the past I have ordered things from England or Europe. Nowadays with the devalued US dollar it generally does not pay.
Doug

11-23-2007, 06:12 AM	#1
Wenlock Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shropshire, England	Mounting CSM Cyclock on Logo 500 / 600 Has anyone found a neat and tidy way to mount all those little black boxes? I'm struggling to find places to mount everything. So far the best layout I've found is: Rx and Cyclock stacked next to elevator servo Tail gyro (401) underneath tail servo (hope I never need to get at the Limit pot) Roll cyclic gyro (SL720) on bulkhead next to tail servo - very close to tail gyro Pitch cyclic gyro (SL720) looks like it'll have to go behind the elevator servo on a custom bracket And the wiring, when I get it all plugged in, is going to look like an explosion in a spaghetti factory. Has anyone come up with a better solution to this 3D puzzle?

11-23-2007, 06:28 AM	#2
Eyon Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cambridge, UK	V-Bar __________________ Ian Watson Avant Aurora, YS91 SR, Hatori SB19, GY611, V-Blade 690 smooth extremes Logo 600 3D, V-Bar, Hacker ElectricTurbine A50-12L-8P-ET, Flightpower 10s1p 5350 EVOLITE, 600mm V Extremes

11-23-2007, 04:12 PM	#6
stevehonn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Halesowen, UK	Th Cyclock works pretty well on my 500. The aileron gyro is just behind the mainshaft fixed to the vertical surface in front of the elevator servo, it's a little tight but it's out of the way. The elevator gyro is fixed to the side of the elevator servoand the cyclock unit is behind the elevator servo, it all manages to fit inside the canopy. __________________ Steve H Trex 600N Sport, 700N , Trex 250, Beam E4, Trex 550E, Raptor E550, Mikado Logo 500 3D, now a happy user of Futaba 10CG

11-24-2007, 05:04 PM	#8
stevehonn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Halesowen, UK	Not vibration problems at all, I actually got this layout from Tean who posts on Heliaddicts and Runryder. I've not tried a V Bar setup athough I've seen plenty as the whole Mikado team was using them at 3D Masters but comparing flight performance with the CSM setup I can't justify spending the extra cash just to save a bit of space __________________ Steve H Trex 600N Sport, 700N , Trex 250, Beam E4, Trex 550E, Raptor E550, Mikado Logo 500 3D, now a happy user of Futaba 10CG

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11-23-2007, 09:08 AM	#3
Wenlock Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shropshire, England	I know, but then what would I do with all those spare gyros?

11-24-2007, 06:37 AM	#7
Wenlock Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shropshire, England	Aha, good thinking Steve! I never thought of using that bulkhead in front of the mainshaft. You don't get any vibration problems from mounting a gyro on the elevator servo? Thanks for the great idea, I'll go and have another shot at it. Ian

11-25-2007, 06:21 AM	#9
Wenlock Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shropshire, England	I have to agree, the V-Bar gear may be tidy but the price is a bit too salty!

11-25-2007, 06:32 PM	#10
Doug101 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Upstate NY	I don't understand the price problem. In the USA a cylock and 3 sl 720's would be about $650.00 if bought in a package. Much more seperately. The vStabi electronics are $699.00. A $50 saving doesn't seem like much to me. Doug

11-26-2007, 01:51 AM	#11
Wenlock Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shropshire, England	If you're starting from zero, then the difference in price isn't too much, but I already had a 401 lying around to use on the tail. In the UK a V-Bar system (without air pressure sensor) costs the equivalent of $1000. A complete CSM package with 2 SL720s costs the equivalent of $600, so the saving was around $400, not $50. It's looking more likely that I'll give the V-Bar a try on the next build.

11-26-2007, 03:25 PM	#12
Doug101 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Upstate NY	If you already have the tail gyro then of course it is cheaper. At $1000 for the vStabi without pressure sensor I sure would consider ordering from the USA. It;s funny how these things are priced for different markets. Sometimes in the past I have ordered things from England or Europe. Nowadays with the devalued US dollar it generally does not pay. Doug