Rocket tests ;) 6S Evolites and Scorpion motor

Finless · 01-14-2008, 09:02 PM

OK so I got my 6S 2500 Evolite packs and Kevin (fireup) got a new Scorpion 1400KV motor from the Ontario AMA show. So I decided to loan him a pack to try out with the new motor...

It was a FREAKIN ROCKET as you can see by the attached video. But the price was a little high. 2200+ out of my pack in this 4.5 minute flight video with the Scorpion 1400KV and 16T pinion. Later Kevin dropped to a 15T which was a little more reasonable and got a 4.5 min flight with 2000 out of the 2500 pack. I am thinking a 14T would yield better results as that is just a little too ballistic!
However with this kind of power a 6S 3300 might be a ticket...

MAN too many packs and motors to test guys so lets keep this coming!

Here is the video

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...e=evoscorp.wmv

Here is FIreup's mod to my video showing the Eagle Tree readings LIVE with the video! Nice job Kevin!
http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...=evoscorp2.wmv

Kevin will post the Eagle tree recording of the 16T and the later 15T flights. I did not video the 15T flight.

Bob

fireup · 01-14-2008, 09:17 PM

Here's the EagleTree data:

16T Pinion (In Video)

15T Pinion

CatchmyCorsair · 01-14-2008, 09:42 PM

That things sounds nuts!! Scary is right.

With frequent 60-80A spikes I think the EVO25's might be a better option (or 3300 Evolite if they get made). At 3000+ rpm I don't think the weight gain would be noticeable.

Thanks for the video!

Finless · 01-14-2008, 09:57 PM

Kevin likes it but I think it is going a little overboard.... Personal opinion and YES he is sucking 2500 packs dry FAST... I think there is more work to be done to find the best combo!

BUT with the power he has I think he can now run bigger packs to get the flight time up... It's ALL a trade off somewhere

Bob

fireup · 01-14-2008, 10:06 PM

I'm sticking with this motor on 15T.

booger · 01-14-2008, 10:27 PM

how was the motor temps?

fireup · 01-14-2008, 10:32 PM

Warm to the touch like booger.

125-130F if i recall.

booger · 01-14-2008, 10:34 PM

was it way quieter than the stock align motor?
mine is really loud

erniefritz · 01-14-2008, 10:35 PM

I think the best setup is going to be the 1900kv scorpion motor on 5S 3300mAh and a 13T pinion. 5 Min of Hard 3D or 6 - 6.5 of average sport flying.

fireup · 01-14-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger

was it way quieter than the stock align motor?
mine is really loud

Yes, due to the lower Kv and better bearings in the motor.

Jason Bell · 01-14-2008, 10:44 PM

Dayum boy take it easy!!!! Stop trying rug burns like alan!!! SHEESH!!!

Serious, nice flying man!

The thing is rocket and a half........

Hope my canopy stays on!!!

cbdane · 01-14-2008, 11:06 PM

"Whoaaaa, don't taco my pack."

"You, you're going to wreck your brand-new heli, dude!"

"Awright, that's good..."

"Downwind? Don't taco the pack."

Boy Bob, Fireup sure had you sweatin'...

Innov8tive · 01-15-2008, 12:03 AM

It is good to see the Scorpion Motors doing what they do best, beating the air into submission!

Thanks for posting the video and the datalogger plots.

Keep it coming guys, and thanks for the support!

Lucien Miller

Innov8tive Designs

jyheli · 01-15-2008, 12:13 AM

Can turn on the watts monitoring on the two eagle tree logs? I should hit above 1400Watts, right?

monster8 · 01-15-2008, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbdane

"Whoaaaa, don't taco my pack."

"You, you're going to wreck your brand-new heli, dude!"

"Awright, that's good..."

"Downwind? Don't taco the pack."

Boy Bob, Fireup sure had you sweatin'...

lol
that was hilarious!
Great flying, thanks for the info.

Finless · 01-15-2008, 01:21 AM

OK folks Fireup took my vid and added the eagle tree read out to it. I will have that video up in about 20 minutes!

Bob

OICU812 · 01-15-2008, 01:23 AM

Well according to the calcs the 15 tooth would yield 50 rpm over stock 1600kv with 13tooth so 15 is for sure target choice.

Now if I can just get Lucien to be kind enough to get me one of these 1400kv bad boyz........

fireup · 01-15-2008, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyheli

Can turn on the watts monitoring on the two eagle tree logs? I should hit above 1400Watts, right?

Ok, graph updated with watts

Finless · 01-15-2008, 01:27 AM

Yea Lucien hook up the guys doing all the testing

I would LOVE to do a bottom line 1 to 1 heads up test with the Align 1600 and the Scorpion 1600! One motor aint going to break yea I hope

Bob

Finless · 01-15-2008, 01:31 AM

OK in the first post I added Kevin's modified video showing a live reading of the eagle tree on this flight! For those that don't want to go look up the first post here is the link!

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...=evoscorp2.wmv

Bob

01-14-2008, 09:02 PM	#1
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	Rocket tests ;) 6S Evolites and Scorpion motor OK so I got my 6S 2500 Evolite packs and Kevin (fireup) got a new Scorpion 1400KV motor from the Ontario AMA show. So I decided to loan him a pack to try out with the new motor... It was a FREAKIN ROCKET as you can see by the attached video. But the price was a little high. 2200+ out of my pack in this 4.5 minute flight video with the Scorpion 1400KV and 16T pinion. Later Kevin dropped to a 15T which was a little more reasonable and got a 4.5 min flight with 2000 out of the 2500 pack. I am thinking a 14T would yield better results as that is just a little too ballistic! However with this kind of power a 6S 3300 might be a ticket... MAN too many packs and motors to test guys so lets keep this coming! Here is the video http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...e=evoscorp.wmv Here is FIreup's mod to my video showing the Eagle Tree readings LIVE with the video! Nice job Kevin! http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...=evoscorp2.wmv Kevin will post the Eagle tree recording of the 16T and the later 15T flights. I did not video the 15T flight. Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

01-14-2008, 09:17 PM	#2
fireup Team Taco CEO Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Anaheim, CA	Here's the EagleTree data: 16T Pinion (In Video) 15T Pinion Attached Thumbnails __________________ Kevin Don't Taco My Pack, Bro! , Why crash when you can POUND it!

01-14-2008, 09:42 PM	#3
CatchmyCorsair Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio	That things sounds nuts!! Scary is right. With frequent 60-80A spikes I think the EVO25's might be a better option (or 3300 Evolite if they get made). At 3000+ rpm I don't think the weight gain would be noticeable. Thanks for the video! __________________ Steve Trex 450 Pro = MSH Prôtos = E-Stratus

01-14-2008, 09:57 PM	#4
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	Kevin likes it but I think it is going a little overboard.... Personal opinion and YES he is sucking 2500 packs dry FAST... I think there is more work to be done to find the best combo! BUT with the power he has I think he can now run bigger packs to get the flight time up... It's ALL a trade off somewhere Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

01-14-2008, 10:06 PM	#5
fireup Team Taco CEO Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Anaheim, CA	I'm sticking with this motor on 15T. __________________ Kevin Don't Taco My Pack, Bro! , Why crash when you can POUND it!

01-14-2008, 10:27 PM	#6
booger Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: oklahoma	how was the motor temps? __________________ Trex 450 SE, Trex 450 V2, HdX500SAH,Trex 500, Century Swift

01-14-2008, 10:32 PM	#7
fireup Team Taco CEO Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Anaheim, CA	Warm to the touch like booger. 125-130F if i recall. __________________ Kevin Don't Taco My Pack, Bro! , Why crash when you can POUND it!

01-14-2008, 10:34 PM	#8
booger Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: oklahoma	was it way quieter than the stock align motor? mine is really loud __________________ Trex 450 SE, Trex 450 V2, HdX500SAH,Trex 500, Century Swift

01-14-2008, 10:35 PM	#9
erniefritz Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Florida	I think the best setup is going to be the 1900kv scorpion motor on 5S 3300mAh and a 13T pinion. 5 Min of Hard 3D or 6 - 6.5 of average sport flying.

01-14-2008, 10:44 PM	#11
Jason Bell Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chico, Ca	Dayum boy take it easy!!!! Stop trying rug burns like alan!!! SHEESH!!! Serious, nice flying man! The thing is rocket and a half........ Hope my canopy stays on!!! __________________ Avant RC Factory Pilot / A Main Hobbies Customer Service. Representing: Team Avant,A Main Hobbies, YS Engines, Edge Blades, Thunder Power RC, Scorpion Power Systems, Spektrum RC, Aerospire RC, Insane Canopy, Castle Creations

01-14-2008, 11:06 PM	#12
cbdane Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, U.S.	Nervous Bob... "Whoaaaa, don't taco my pack." "You, you're going to wreck your brand-new heli, dude!" "Awright, that's good..." "Downwind? Don't taco the pack." Boy Bob, Fireup sure had you sweatin'... __________________ Have laser, will travel.

01-15-2008, 12:03 AM	#13
Innov8tive Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Marcos, CA	Nice Video Guys!! It is good to see the Scorpion Motors doing what they do best, beating the air into submission! Thanks for posting the video and the datalogger plots. Keep it coming guys, and thanks for the support! Lucien Miller Innov8tive Designs

01-15-2008, 12:13 AM	#14
jyheli Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore	watts Can turn on the watts monitoring on the two eagle tree logs? I should hit above 1400Watts, right? __________________ DX18 ; Logo 500, Gaui X4 II

01-15-2008, 01:21 AM	#16
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	OK folks Fireup took my vid and added the eagle tree read out to it. I will have that video up in about 20 minutes! Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

01-15-2008, 01:23 AM	#17
OICU812 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edson, Alberta, Canada	Well according to the calcs the 15 tooth would yield 50 rpm over stock 1600kv with 13tooth so 15 is for sure target choice. Now if I can just get Lucien to be kind enough to get me one of these 1400kv bad boyz........ __________________ ...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars & frequency pins...Shawn To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-15-2008, 01:27 AM	#19
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	Yea Lucien hook up the guys doing all the testing I would LOVE to do a bottom line 1 to 1 heads up test with the Align 1600 and the Scorpion 1600! One motor aint going to break yea I hope Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

01-15-2008, 01:31 AM	#20
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	OK in the first post I added Kevin's modified video showing a live reading of the eagle tree on this flight! For those that don't want to go look up the first post here is the link! http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...=evoscorp2.wmv Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

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