90 SE or 90 3D?

Helico-pteron · 09-25-2008, 08:22 PM

I am looking to get a 90 and wanted to know if more folks preferred the 3D or SE?

The price difference is pretty substantial.

Thanks!

vandelescrow · 09-25-2008, 08:45 PM

I have the 3D, it is cheaper and lighter then the SE. So not only will it feal better to your pocket book, it will flip and and roll faster. Not to mention the head on the 3D is more tunable.

Helico-pteron · 09-25-2008, 08:51 PM

I was reading about the tuning, but did not see that on the SE. That is good to know since that was one main thing I was looking at.

It will be nice to have a Raptor back in my hangar. How do you like it? I used to have a Titan, so how does it compare? I have only flown 50 class.

Badger50 · 09-25-2008, 08:58 PM

I 2nd what Vandelescrow said, go with the 3D version. IMHO I don't think the price difference is worth the CF frames etc. Not to mention a stock 3D version will out fly your abilities if your not used to 90's, or 3D flying. Good luck with your choice

vandelescrow · 09-26-2008, 07:52 PM

Badger50 comented about the carbon frames, if you look at any of the photos posted here, all the 90 SE's have metal frame stiffeners. So judging from that I'd say the carbon frames are not stong enough, the frame stiffeners are an added expense and added weight.

I have not flown the 90 much, party because I am still a bit intimidated by it and the other is I am terible when it comes to tuning an engine and rely on a local expert for that. But, The local expert (Wayne Mann) has flown my 90 3D and was quite impressed with it. He was vary surprised how well it tracked in forward flight. It's roll rate was slower than my 50 even with it set up with the agressive settings and using (cant think of the model number but its those new JR servos with the red metal on the body, realy fast servos). I am using Radix 710 stick bangers, Im sure 690's will increase the roll rate. I was told that 90's will NOT roll as fast as 50's so it is something I will have to get used to.

When I was in your possition. I downloaded the manuals to both the SE and 3D, compared what parts they come with, what parts I will upgrade etc, the 3D won out. The only thing I wish the 3D came with was metal blade grips. I'm still using the plastic grips that came with the 3D but the advantage to the plastic ones is they except 2 different size blade roots, the metal only except one size, sorry cant remember the size. So, using the plastic grips gives you a bigger selection in blades to choose from.

Sorry If I don't make sence, I've had a few beers tonight, but hope it helps

Helico-pteron · 09-26-2008, 08:02 PM

Ha, no worries, you made more sense than most on here.

I agree about the CF frame stiffeners, I don't want an CF.

The only blades I use are the standard root so metal grips aren't an issue. I think with 690s you'll see a great improvement. I already new that it's roll rate was slower than the 50, more mass to move.

I have decided to get the 3D, thanks guys.

I already have all the electronics so all I need is the kit, motor and blades.

Lota Fun R · 09-29-2008, 06:20 AM

I have a raptor 60 that was converted to a 90, alum frame, the alum frame is rock solid.

I was going to put stiffeners on the frame but it doesn't need it and just adds extra weight.

I replaced the plastic head with various different parts, TT head with button, 3d see saw, Correct flybar cage and Correct blade grips, made by Correct, G Force mixing arms.

The root on the blade grips is not an issue since blades come with spacers.

It is an awesome heli, mine is very responsive compared to my Trex 600N, both helis have same servos.

You won't regret buying either, I love my Raptor.....and mine is a custom build.

09-25-2008, 08:22 PM	#1
Helico-pteron Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glenview, IL	90 SE or 90 3D? I am looking to get a 90 and wanted to know if more folks preferred the 3D or SE? The price difference is pretty substantial. Thanks!

09-25-2008, 08:45 PM	#2
vandelescrow Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Greensboro NC	I have the 3D, it is cheaper and lighter then the SE. So not only will it feal better to your pocket book, it will flip and and roll faster. Not to mention the head on the 3D is more tunable. __________________ Lord let me be the person my dog thinks I am.

09-25-2008, 08:58 PM	#4
Badger50 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lenexa, KS.	I 2nd what Vandelescrow said, go with the 3D version. IMHO I don't think the price difference is worth the CF frames etc. Not to mention a stock 3D version will out fly your abilities if your not used to 90's, or 3D flying. Good luck with your choice __________________ Mike: Rap-90 3D x 2, Rap-50 x 2, Fury 55, Rex-450, Hirobo Squark. "Depression is nothing more than anger, without enthusiasm" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-26-2008, 07:52 PM	#5
vandelescrow Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Greensboro NC	Badger50 comented about the carbon frames, if you look at any of the photos posted here, all the 90 SE's have metal frame stiffeners. So judging from that I'd say the carbon frames are not stong enough, the frame stiffeners are an added expense and added weight. I have not flown the 90 much, party because I am still a bit intimidated by it and the other is I am terible when it comes to tuning an engine and rely on a local expert for that. But, The local expert (Wayne Mann) has flown my 90 3D and was quite impressed with it. He was vary surprised how well it tracked in forward flight. It's roll rate was slower than my 50 even with it set up with the agressive settings and using (cant think of the model number but its those new JR servos with the red metal on the body, realy fast servos). I am using Radix 710 stick bangers, Im sure 690's will increase the roll rate. I was told that 90's will NOT roll as fast as 50's so it is something I will have to get used to. When I was in your possition. I downloaded the manuals to both the SE and 3D, compared what parts they come with, what parts I will upgrade etc, the 3D won out. The only thing I wish the 3D came with was metal blade grips. I'm still using the plastic grips that came with the 3D but the advantage to the plastic ones is they except 2 different size blade roots, the metal only except one size, sorry cant remember the size. So, using the plastic grips gives you a bigger selection in blades to choose from. Sorry If I don't make sence, I've had a few beers tonight, but hope it helps __________________ Lord let me be the person my dog thinks I am.

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09-25-2008, 08:51 PM	#3
Helico-pteron Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glenview, IL	I was reading about the tuning, but did not see that on the SE. That is good to know since that was one main thing I was looking at. It will be nice to have a Raptor back in my hangar. How do you like it? I used to have a Titan, so how does it compare? I have only flown 50 class.

09-26-2008, 08:02 PM	#6
Helico-pteron Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glenview, IL	Ha, no worries, you made more sense than most on here. I agree about the CF frame stiffeners, I don't want an CF. The only blades I use are the standard root so metal grips aren't an issue. I think with 690s you'll see a great improvement. I already new that it's roll rate was slower than the 50, more mass to move. I have decided to get the 3D, thanks guys. I already have all the electronics so all I need is the kit, motor and blades.

09-29-2008, 06:20 AM	#7
Lota Fun R Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sunny & 70	I have a raptor 60 that was converted to a 90, alum frame, the alum frame is rock solid. I was going to put stiffeners on the frame but it doesn't need it and just adds extra weight. I replaced the plastic head with various different parts, TT head with button, 3d see saw, Correct flybar cage and Correct blade grips, made by Correct, G Force mixing arms. The root on the blade grips is not an issue since blades come with spacers. It is an awesome heli, mine is very responsive compared to my Trex 600N, both helis have same servos. You won't regret buying either, I love my Raptor.....and mine is a custom build.