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05-22-2009, 11:58 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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New to the 700 - Questions and My first opinions
Ok, I got my 700 today - my first 90, and the first Align product in a long time.
I have a couple of questions here.... Is it worth installing the Mod-1 Main gear? I want to install metal tail grips, should i use the align ones or pay more than double & get the Quick UK? where can I find some replacement screws for the servo install? I dont want to use these align ones - I think they are made out of recycled cow manure My first opinions The hardware included with this kit is complete and utter &^&W@ trash. (I have ordered replacement shoulder washers/hardware) Overall the kit is very nice for the price, I plan on flying this one for a while & there are only a few areas I think need upgrades/tweaking The bearing quality isnt very special
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05-23-2009, 05:01 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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I'd basically echo what cbdane has said, I've had no problem with the Align supplied fixings and after nearly 12 months, my motor has been in and out a few times, as has the clutch stack plus the boom occasionally and I've yet to round out or strip a single screw, none have shaken loose either. As long as the tools use to fit them are good quality there shouldn't be a problem (I seem to be the only 250 owner who's only ever stripped the head of a single screw as well!).
Although I was still on my original maingear after 30 gallons of fuel through it, I decided to fit the MicroHeli Mod 1 gear & pinion but after a few weeks use I was stripping the heli to fit the Align metal clutch stack housing and found lots of white dust and inspecting the gear, some of the teeth have quite a significant amount of wear so I've fitted the original pinion & gear back in the heli again. I've used both the Quick UK & Align metal tails, the Quick UK hub I have only has a 3mm grub screw to retain it and the dimple in the shaft is quite large, as a result the hub tends to loosen slightly and rock on the shaft. I had heard that Quick UK were changing to M4 grub screws, same as the Align hub so this may no longer be the case. As the Align tail has an M4 grub screw it stays tight on the shaft, in use I can't really tell the difference between the Align or Quick UK tails. The only bearings replaced have been the mainshaft bearings after a crash, this left them notchy so I replaced with aftermarket bearings which are fine. One upgrade I would recommend is to fit the Quick UK ball & link set during the build. The Align links are fine when new but tend to develop some slop after 15 or so gallons, the Quick UK links stay tight. Fitting the Quick UK links after the build is a royal pain as you have to renew every ball & link, the only ones not replaced on the whole heli are the radius arms & balls from the washout mixer & swash.
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05-23-2009, 09:04 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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On the bolt/screw/hardware situation, I guess everyone feels differently about things, I personally will be replacing every bolt/screw in this kit, they are very low quality fasteners and i can see why people are having issues with the heads stripping out.
I will leave the stock main gear in there & see how it goes, If i make sure the mesh is good, Im sure it will help a lot The Quick UK link kit is already on its way to me..
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05-23-2009, 07:27 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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Id change the sholder bolts install the updated main gear and put in different clunk line
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05-23-2009, 08:51 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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By updated main gear, do you mean the new version from align?
Also, what is the issue with the clunk line? i have some hayes line & can change it out
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05-24-2009, 09:33 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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Definately change the clunk line to hayes. Align line is dookie.
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05-25-2009, 08:07 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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Strange... I had only 9 quite easy flights in mine before I changed the bearing blocks to KDE Direct. When I took out the original upper block it already had a notchy bearing. I have a kit that dates back to last summer (even though it has been flying only for two months now) so maybe they have started using better bearings in later kits.
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Whats really funny is that there have been people stating that the quality of align bearings/fastners have been poor for years, long before the 700...... But there is always someone who says that the problem never existed for them.. I am new to the 700, but Im not new to quality or lack-of.. I have flown align products before and this 700, although a very very good bird overall, has some issues that I will not leave alone. I will not leave the stock fasteners in there, despite anyone who says they have not had problems - they are cheap junk I will change the main bearings to better quality, and as needed I will replace the rest with non-align products. But when you look at it from a different point of view, the cost factor of the 700 allows me the ability to change the things I am not happy with and still have a low cost 90 size bird....
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05-25-2009, 05:32 PM | #10 (permalink) | |
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Whatever fasteners you end up with, I think you'll enjoy this heli!
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05-25-2009, 07:33 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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There was no intended tone...
It is a fact that some people see issues, but some never ever do. i have had the same issue when I was flying my previous brand. some people had issues with their heli's that i never did... and some issues everyone has..
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