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Old 09-23-2011, 03:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New 700E Rear Frame Mounting Block H70088

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product...oducts_id=4088
The frame would be stronger
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man align must really hate kde or love them for doing all their R&D for them.
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Old 09-23-2011, 03:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It looks like Align's one is much stronger now
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Now another one for the front and i'll order a set.

Align is really looking at copying all of KDE's upgrades.
I expect a 3rd bearing block and longer mainshaft in a while..
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Sorry but it really stinks. American innovates and comes up with idea and product. Taiwan copies it and sells for less.

I already have the KDE one.
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Now another one for the front and i'll order a set.

Align is really looking at copying all of KDE's upgrades.
I expect a 3rd bearing block and longer mainshaft in a while..
I'm sure they have the 3rd bearing block on production, my V2 frame came with the holes to mount the 3rd bearing block. Anyway I already got the KDE on mine and it looks great

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Now another one for the front and i'll order a set
+1 That area breaks easily it seems. If KDE Direct came out with one I would buy it.
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Well, you can't prevent it from being copied.. look at how many 450 clones there are!
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Well, you can't prevent it from being copied.. look at how many 450 clones there are!
Yea by the time the Patent was processed the heli would be obsolete


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Looks nice but I am sure the KDE is way better in terms of quality an finish. I have the KDE and its very nice and worth every penny.

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Sorry but it really stinks. American innovates and comes up with idea and product. Taiwan copies it and sells for less..
True, but "if" we come up with something first, why don't we market it here, and not charge so damn much? Our three major auto makers should be cloning import cars and copy their innovations......... Nah, let someone else have our jobs.
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Sorry but it really stinks. American innovates and comes up with idea and product. Taiwan copies it and sells for less.

I already have the KDE one.

Free market system, it is what fosters competition and keeps us, the consumer, from paying outrageous prices for products...regardless of the country of origin.
Even if KDE patented their frame brace, I don't think Aligns frame brace copies any design except for the idea that it is a rear frame brace.

That being said, if the prices and quality are close, I buy American if possible and I own a lot of KDE upgrades including two of the frame braces. Either way, the consumer always has a choice on what to purchase.
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Free market system, it is what fosters competition and keeps us, the consumer, from paying outrageous prices for products...regardless of the country of origin.
Even if KDE patented their frame brace, I don't think Aligns frame brace copies any design except for the idea that it is a rear frame brace.

That being said, if the prices and quality are close, I buy American if possible and I own a lot of KDE upgrades including two of the frame braces. Either way, the consumer always has a choice on what to purchase.
Your right it does lower prices but also does not reward innovation.
If all America does is innovate but not manufacture, then we are truly in trouble from an Economic perspective


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Your right it does lower prices but also does not reward innovation.
If all America does is innovate but not manufacture, then we are truly in trouble from an Economic perspective


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I think innovation is still rewarded for a company that has the forethought to keep their price "in the hunt". Or provides a better quality of product or customer service.
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I think innovation is still rewarded for a company that has the forethought to keep their price "in the hunt". Or provides a better quality of product or customer service.
Great point. It's like the KDE head block, nice but not $70 nice.


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+1 I've got the KDE on mine.
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Great point. It's like the KDE head block, nice but not $70 nice.
It's not 70$, but $78.95.
Anyway I got it. It's a engineered beauty of artwork and I can be looking at it for the hours.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:56 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Might I just add that every KDE upgrade I have purchased have all been perfect and flawless in every respect with one exception. After contacting KDE and receiving a very, very prompt reply to my small issue, KDE replaced a portion of of my problem part without delay. To be completely honest, the issue at hand was probably due to me monkey fisting what should be have been finessed.

Props to KDE for their great customer service and understanding. I will happily pay KDE for their innovation and their efforts in top quality products.

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Sorry but it really stinks. American innovates and comes up with idea and product. Taiwan copies it and sells for less.

I already have the KDE one.
Totally agree. I already have most of the KDE upgrades for my V2 700 and glad I do. Wouldn't buy the copied Align parts even if I didn't have the KDE stuff already.

The KDE stuff is so nice too. I don't mine paying more for a high quality product made in the USA

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Totally agree. I already have most of the KDE upgrades for my V2 700 and glad I do. Wouldn't buy the copied Align parts even if I didn't have the KDE stuff already.

The KDE stuff is so nice too. I don't mine paying more for a high quality product made in the USA

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Er, how many ways is there to make a frame brace in this area anyway? How do we know it's a copy of the KDE idea? Align could just be finally fixing their heli.

though it's true KDE seems to have come up with the repair first. That said, I ordered the KDE part the other day. Partly for bling purposes (the KDE looks really nice) and partly because it looks like a good design.

And... it looks like it'll even work on the front frame joint too, which I'll check when I get mine. If so, I'm going to order another one for the front. It'll have the tail brace mounting holes there, but it should be easy to make the canopy clear those protrusions. then the whole frame area down there will be much stronger.

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