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Old 02-05-2012, 02:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default DX4e Switch Tutorial. MCPX RTF

WARNING: OPENING AND MODIFYING THE CONTROLLER WILL MOST LIKELY VOID YOUR WARRANTY.

As all have read. All high quality radios have the switches on opposite sides. Here is a guide to help you move your switches to the right positions. If you have any questions or if the instructions are not clear feel free to PM me.

Don't listen to those that say to get a high end radio and run your DX4e radio over with a truck. It is a great radio and with a few mods it can show you as much respect as you show it. It is a good learning tool and if you are starting out with it. You have made a good choice. I hope this info helps.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Please Sticky!!!!
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I fully endorse this thread.
I had been meaning to make such a thread myself but obviously I'm a lazy stooge and you had to do it for me. lol

In other words, thank you, and well done.

Now we need to do the rest of it.

Stick centering and pitch leveling/evening.
When you get these next few things right, your MCPX will fly dialed in.

Please, somebody sticky this stuff or put it in the bible for us lost DX4E souls.
I will add to it or link to this later etc for sure.
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Old 02-05-2012, 08:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Nice write-up! I used a momentary bat handle switch for TH so it feels more like my DX7. Need to point out that the cable bundles should be properly routed back under the PCB - one pic shows one of these laying on top of the cyclic POT; these move on radios without digital trim and might eat though insulation over time.

Funny you mention not needing a high-end radio. I bought my mCPX BNF for use with the 7. Then picked up a DX4 as a beater TX for trips and such.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I fully endorse this thread.
I had been meaning to make such a thread myself but obviously I'm a lazy stooge and you had to do it for me. lol

In other words, thank you, and well done.

Now we need to do the rest of it.

Stick centering and pitch leveling/evening.
When you get these next few things right, your MCPX will fly dialed in.

Please, somebody sticky this stuff or put it in the bible for us lost DX4E souls.
I will add to it or link to this later etc for sure.
You are welcome and as I've been reading many of your posts, I've come to notice your passion for the DX4e. Figured that I would back you up. The more I play with it, the easier flying gets.
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Nice write-up! I used a momentary bat handle switch for TH so it feels more like my DX7. Need to point out that the cable bundles should be properly routed back under the PCB - one pic shows one of these laying on top of the cyclic POT; these move on radios without digital trim and might eat though insulation over time.

Funny you mention not needing a high-end radio. I bought my mCPX BNF for use with the 7. Then picked up a DX4 as a beater TX for trips and such.
Well put. NOTE: Whenever you open up your electronics. Please make sure your wires are rerouted and secured before closing.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'll see what I can do but I have many projects around here already. Linkages and FET replacements and I Still owe a M5 brushless video but can't afford packs. (sickening I know since they're only $10 each lol)

I tried to make a DX4E pitch setup video before but I ruined it because I'm not Finless Bob setup video master. My camera is on it's last leg and my memory cards are all ancient 1gig video claustrophobic flash drives.

It may be a while but I'd gladly add setup tips to this page when I can.
Perhaps I'll use a photo format. Should help to simplify things while getting the point across.


what I want to show is how to find the center of the pitch stick with a digital caliper, and then center the pitch perfectly to the MCPX head and DX4E stick gimbal so you can fly it like it was meant to be.

Of course I hear reports that not all DX4E will do my trick, but I'd like to make a video for people to try so they can see if they can perfect their heli/dx4E setup. Or at least pictures.

Also helps to add a spiffy countdown timer. I need to replace the one I added with velcro with a better one.
I liked the one I had because it was small but I think I need a bulkier cooking timer with easier to access functions than the small watch style timer I have on it now which also isn't loud enough.

Actually I don't have anything going right this second. Let me get some pictures if the camera will cooperate.

Since both my heli's are down waiting for repairs I may also fly my B2 bomber with the DX4E today that I built.
I'll get a picture of that also.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Here you can see some of my upgrades.
The hawk-rc sticker adds style points and the timer I'm saying I need to replace.
Somewhere I already have pictures of marking the sticks too.
I also took a paint marker and colored around the stick rings and some of the trim knobs and hash marks to make things look fancy and be easier to see.


Here is my left switches setup as you also did.


Right side.
You can see I glued my dual rate switch for 3D.
This is so I don't forget to always be in full rate. Trying to flip it indoors at half rate is no good. lol
If you are going to glue any of the trims, use hot glue so you can remove it later if needed. Only use a small amount. I only glue my aileron and elevator trims and only with a tiny dab of removable hot glue. You can also see that in this picture. On the elevator trim tab, the glue is on the other side.
For the aileron trim tab, you can see the glue dot.


I have more pics somewhere, give me a minute.

Here is the "Orange RX" receiver I am using from ebay for $12 shipped that I put in my B2 Bomber.
I also used it to test my brushless components before converting my BL MCPX.
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Here I am using a caliper to measure the outer stick gimbal and mark a center on it.
Then I mark the inner stick gimbal with a center line also.

I managed to get two lines with which to center the stick between when I marked it.
Hard to explain with my two marks but I know where my stick center is now.
I can also test it with the extra "orange rx" with a servo to find center by plugging the servo into say aileron channel and let the aileron stick center, mark the servo center, then plug it into the throttle channel and see if center throttle stick equals the same center servo line as the aileron channel did. I also highlight the trims with silver so they are easier to see faster.

Somebody sticky this.
I'm going to add a link in the MCPX bible now if I can.
This is good useful information here.
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Here is a link to my build thread setting up the DX4E with a brushless MCPX.

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=374402

So far so good. I just need new batteries. It has lots of power!

There is a short two minute clip in there when I set the camera up on the ground and tried to do a few pitch pumps to show the power of the heli. Once I get more batteries to feed it I will wring it out more.

Now we need a video of how to setup up center and even pitch on the DX4E.
It is possible!
I will work on this when I get a chance.


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Old 02-06-2012, 10:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Here is directions how to enable or disable the exponential feature on your DX4E.
I found these online somewhere types up by somebody else and this made a world of a difference on the responsiveness on my MCPX to shut the "expo" off!
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Also, there is a low rate expo setting for the DX4e that is not documented in the mCPX manual. I think this may have been helpful when first learning to fly the mCPX. You could give it a try too.

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DX4e and DX5e Expo Activation and Deactivation
Disconnect the battery from the aircraft before
activating the Expo feature in your transmitter.

Once Expo is activated, it will remain activated for use through subsequent power cycles of the transmitter.
Once Expo is deactivated, it will remain deactivated until it is activated again.

DX4e (Modes 1 and 2)
Activate and Deactivate Expo
1. Put the ACT switch in the down position
(ON) and the Rate switch in the down
position (LO).

2. Push and hold the trainer (bind) button
and move and hold the two sticks (as
described below for activation (A) or
deactivation (B)), while powering on
the transmitter.

Here are the stick positions for A and B above.
A: Left stick: upper left. Right stick: upper left
B: Left stick: upper left. Right stick: lower right

3. Release the trainer switch and the
control sticks only after a series of
tones sound (ascending tones for
activation, descending tones for
deactivation).
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Now on to the pitch centering and evening.
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Here is a link to my build thread setting up the DX4E with a brushless MCPX.

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=374402

So far so good. I just need new batteries. It has lots of power!

There is a short two minute clip in there when I set the camera up on the ground and tried to do a few pitch pumps to show the power of the heli. Once I get more batteries to feed it I will wring it out more.

Now we need a video of how to setup up center and even pitch on the DX4E. It is possible!
I will work on this when I get a chance.

Awesome info and thanks! You know videos are good and all, but feel that most of the time it is unnecessary and a bit more a pain than doing photo tutorials. You should be able to walk through your pitch and center stick steps good enough using pictures. Just a matter of preference I guess.
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No sticky!!??
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Good morning all, this morning I thought I might muck around with stick potions and trainer button while turning on transmuted same as doing the expo on and off. Not sure exactly what's going on now but when I put both stick to bottom left I got a response. So now once I bind again after making the change the heli mcpx starts with both motor running and at full pitch if I push the trainer button it reverses the pith let go of trainer and goes to full inverted pitch again. Motors appear to running 100%.

I just bought a new plane from hk one of the minis 3d was going to bind up to this radio with the orange tx but now I need to work out how to get this tx back to default setting any ideas?

I tried doing sticks in opposite directions and one stick in opposite direction thinking to reverse what I had done no luck there.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hi - I know this is an old thread but its the first place i have found that people are working on the DX4e instead of just bashing it. I will buy a dx6 eventually but id like to use what i have to learn first.

I have an mcpx that from this thread i have learned for one is binding in computer mode, so ill fix that. I picked up an RTF kit on craigslist for ridiculously cheap because operator was having problems flying it. The swash plate was incredibly off, so after playing with that to get it level as i can without a tool, and getting close to zero pitch at center stick, its hovering ok as it can with a noob operator.


I have two questions at the moment:
1) where should i set these trim switch sliders before i hot glue them and which ones? I have played with the sliders during flight and have seen big changes.... The one on the bottom of my left stick seems to control my tail from spinning and its pretty stable a tad left of center. The other 3 i haven't really figure out what they change....but they do change haha

Right now when hovering i still need to fix one issue, it is hovering back and to the right. so standing behind it the back right of the skid would touch first. trim issue?

2) all of my switches on the very bottom are down. is this mode 2?
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