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Old 05-10-2013, 08:11 PM   #721 (permalink)
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You're right the poor tracking is actually causing some vibes... I just need to spend time on it.
Not that I need it, but just in case, how do we fix tracking on these? Good info is good ammo

I'll crash some time - only father time will tell me.
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Not that I need it, but just in case, how do we fix tracking on these? Good info is good ammo

I'll crash some time - only father time will tell me.
I decided to fix it a while ago... took about 10 minutes by just adjusting the links from the swash to the blade grip of one blade which was off by 1.5 degrees.

Here are the steps I took:

1. Removed 2 wires out of three from the motor to prevent it from running with the lipo connected to the ESC.
2. Set my Tx to IU2 then set the collective at mid stick (0 pitch).
3. Set the blades perpendicular to the boom.
4. Set my digital pitch gauge to zero using the top of the AR7200BX as base.
5. Align the offending blade to 0 degrees pitch by adjusting the link.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:22 PM   #723 (permalink)
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I decided to fix it a while ago... took about 10 minutes by just adjusting the links from the swash to the blade grip of one blade which was off by 1.5 degrees.

Here are the steps I took:

1. Removed 2 wires out of three from the motor to prevent it from running with the lipo connected to the ESC.
2. Set my Tx to IU2 then set the collective at mid stick (0 pitch).
3. Set the blades perpendicular to the boom.
4. Set my digital pitch gauge to zero using the top of the AR7200BX as base.
5. Align the offending blade to 0 degrees pitch by adjusting the link.
I do that for a simple tune-up.

But how's that going to tighten up blade tracking? You lost me hoss.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:46 PM   #724 (permalink)
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you can do this on the ground or in a hover.


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Old 05-10-2013, 10:12 PM   #725 (permalink)
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Great video Al. I didn't think of vibes ATM.

They do look frightening at 1st. So do those flybar paddles!

How about proper blade tracking? I learned everything I know from J. Salt on this issue . . . .

But, how the hell do we tighten up the tracking on our 450Xs, in case we need it?
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:30 PM   #726 (permalink)
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Like in the video by adjusting the blade grip links.
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:34 PM   #727 (permalink)
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Like in the video by adjusting the blade grip links.
That's what HH tech support said. Is it that easy?
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:48 PM   #728 (permalink)
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Yup it is...Its best if you have a piece of colored tape around one of the blade tips and spool it up in a steady eye level hover. Then from there you can see if one of the blades is not lining up with the other when they are rotating. If they are not set it down and adjust one of the blade grip links by one turn and repeat until they do. If the taped blade is riding higher than the blade with no tape you would need to tighten the taped blade link. And if the taped blade is riding lower than the other blade you would need to loosen the link to the taped blade.
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:49 PM   #729 (permalink)
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got them both working today...


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Old 05-10-2013, 10:53 PM   #730 (permalink)
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Nice Ed makes me wish I still had my 3D.

I don't know if its the canopy or just the picture but your 3D looks longer than your X
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:04 PM   #731 (permalink)
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Yup it is...Its best if you have a piece of colored tape around one of the blade tips and spool it up in a steady eye level hover. Then from there you can see if one of the blades is not lining up with the other when they are rotating. If they are not set it down and adjust one of the blade grip links by one turn and repeat until they do. If the taped blade is riding higher than the blade with no tape you would need to tighten the taped blade link. And if the taped blade is riding lower than the other blade you would need to loosen the link to the taped blade.

Okay. that makes sense. It sounds easier than bending blade roots under hot water to bring them up or down - wow, now I'm loving my 450X more than ever.

Thanks for the tip hoss - I gotta see your 550X in action. That's another story, if you posted a video . . . .

Many thanks!
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:54 AM   #732 (permalink)
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If you zero both blades at mid-stick using a pitch gauge (I use an analog gauge and my iPhone with the DigiPitch app) .. you'll never have blades not tracking and (IMO) it's a lot easier and more accurate than eyeballing it.
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:58 AM   #733 (permalink)
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If you zero both blades at mid-stick using a pitch gauge (I use an analog gauge and my iPhone with the DigiPitch app) .. you'll never have blades not tracking.
Yeah, okay.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:20 AM   #734 (permalink)
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You're using an iphone to level your model out!!!!

Like I trust an iphone anyways, never mind it touching my heli. No sir.
The phone doesn't touch my heli. If you would take a minute to digest what you read before attacking it you might actually learn something. I'm about done trying to help you out - being mocked by someone who has no idea what they're talking about isn't very rewarding.

Now try to pay attention...

The analog pitch gauge attaches to a main blade. I set it at zero degrees and set my Tx at zero degrees (mid-stick). Then I use the DigiPitch app which utilizes the camera and the accelerometers in the phone to provide a level line and an angle measurement. I zero that based on the intersection of the frame and main shaft. From there I can get an exact angle of either blade at mid stick, full negative, and full positive.

It would be much easier with an RCLogger digital pitch gauge - but I'm waiting for their new Lite model to hit stores.

BTW - there are people who attach their phones to the blades and zero them that way. It's not a method I use, but I wouldn't mock it without trying it first. And I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about iPhones but the fact that they're made in China is supremely irrelevant. Pretty much everything is made somewhere in Asia, including most of your heli.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:31 AM   #735 (permalink)
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Yep, heli mostly made in Taiwan, which is essentially China.
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I see you edited this before I could quote it properly. For the record, I'd also like to point out that your heli, just like his iphone, was built in China.
I'm going to put this kitchen fire out right now.

Dude, I can care less.

Please re-read the AR7200BX manual.

In no way does it require you to add a cheap junk phone to "level" your stuff out.

I'm quite sure that the Beast X system is way better than your smitten iPhone.

Again - please re-read the instructions; they come in all languages except the iPhone language.

And please stop BSing me.
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Yep, heli mostly made in Taiwan, which is essentially China.
Oh, BTW Taiwan and China are two different countries. Embarrassed yet?
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The phone doesn't touch my heli. If you would take a minute to digest what you read before attacking it you might actually learn something. I'm about done trying to help you out - being mocked by someone who has no idea what they're talking about isn't very rewarding.

Now try to pay attention...

The analog pitch gauge attaches to a main blade. I set it at zero degrees and set my Tx at zero degrees (mid-stick). Then I use the DigiPitch app which utilizes the camera and the accelerometers in the phone to provide a level line and an angle measurement. I zero that based on the intersection of the frame and main shaft. From there I can get an exact angle of either blade at mid stick, full negative, and full positive.

It would be much easier with an RCLogger digital pitch gauge - but I'm waiting for their new Lite model to hit stores.

BTW - there are people who attach their phones to the blades and zero them that way. It's not a method I use, but I wouldn't mock it without trying it first. And I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about iPhones but the fact that they're made in China is supremely irrelevant. Pretty much everything is made somewhere in Asia, including most of your heli.
Dude - get off your iPhone and re-read the manual. Your smitten device is not by any means better than the beast x.

Please re-read the manual. It says nowhere to use phones on it. I have a leveler on my phone too. I'd never use it on something like this. That's completely stupid.

Discussion over.

And yes, Taiwan and China are many miles apart, and they truly are different countries.
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Please re-read the AR7200BX manual.

In no way does it require you to add a cheap junk phone to "level" your stuff out.

I'm quite sure that the Beast X system is way better than your smitten iPhone.

Again - please re-read the instructions; they come in all languages except the iPhone language.

And please stop BSing me.
Wow, thank you. My thousand hours of flight time (and as much or more building & maintaining) was all a waste. I could have simply read the manual and saved myself so much time and energy. Thank you again for imparting your wisdom upon us all.

The only BS in this thread is sitting squarely on your shoulders, friend.
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Wow, thank you. My thousand hours of flight time (and as much or more building & maintaining) was all a waste. I could have simply read the manual and saved myself so much time and energy. Thank you again for imparting your wisdom upon us all.

The only BS in this thread is sitting squarely on your shoulders, friend.
Yeah, whatever. Go play on your iPhone or something and preach your BS to someone else.

I thought this grease fire was over, but someone's still puffing the flames.
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