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Old 12-10-2013, 09:55 PM   #101 (permalink)
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@ annefernee,

From a previous post I made in another thread: "Front opening is 50mm wide by 60mm tall. This measurement is consistent back to the pinion, which sits 110mm back from the front of the frames...then you loose 10mm in height back to the main shaft.

But, don't plan on trying to stuff a battery larger than 4000mah into the tray, as the heli starts to get a little nose heavy with a 4000mah pack because the size of the battery prevents setting the battery back past the pinion".

So regardless of what will fit or not, the weight of 4000+mah packs starts to get unmanageable for the CG. The video Kyle made which is contained in the other thread was made using a 4000mah pack, and weight on the tail was needed as it was to get CG.

It's a 400 class heli, and thus batteries need to sized appropriately. 3700/3800mah packs will probably be a "sweet spot" for the battery size with the heli, but we don't have any yet to try...so take that with a grain of salt.

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Hi Dave,

Many thanks for your reply.. I do have a couple of 3750 Thunder Power 65C batteries.. They sound like they'd be perfect..

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Old 12-10-2013, 09:58 PM   #102 (permalink)
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A couple of Q's from above about the motor requirements:

There is PLENTY of room under the canopy for taller motors. When I looked I didn't even bother to take a measurement, because the space above the installed 4015 to the top of the canopy is cavernous.

Minimum motor shaft length is about 20mm. A 23mm long shaft would work fine.

Note: The 4015 motor supplied has had the shaft shortened from the 32mm shown in the specs on Scorpion's site. It's a drop fit...don't have to shorten the shaft to keep it from protruding out the bottom of the pinion.

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Hi Dave,

I've had a look and think I've found the other thread.. Many thanks for your contributions to all of our questions.

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Old 12-27-2013, 06:55 AM   #103 (permalink)
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can someone please confirm whether Pyro 600-12 can fit the 480 xxtreme ?

or what item is needed to get it to work ?
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Old 12-27-2013, 07:54 AM   #104 (permalink)
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can someone please confirm whether Pyro 600-12 can fit the 480 xxtreme ?

or what item is needed to get it to work ?
The Pyro 600 should fit under the canopy although I am not 100% sure, but it will attach to the motor mount.

As for gearing the Pyro uses a 6mm shaft and there are no 0.5 mod pinion that will fit 6mm shaft.

However the gear is the same as the Logo 500 so you maybe able to change the main gear to a 0.7mod or a 1.0mod so that you can use 6mm shaft pinions in these sizes.
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:34 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Hi,

Any news on the Pyro 600-11 / 12 and appropriate mods required for gearing?

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Old 12-29-2013, 09:17 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Mod 0.7 main gear, 6mm 18 tooth pinion, pyro 600-11, 2600 rpm at 65% throttle mode 4 Jive
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Old 12-29-2013, 12:18 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Mod 0.7 main gear, 6mm 18 tooth pinion, pyro 600-11, 2600 rpm at 65% throttle mode 4 Jive
You OFFICIALLY have this setup on your 480 XXtreme? If so, I'd LOVE to see some pictures of the finished build. That's fantastic news!


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maidened mine today, using the stock electronics that come in the supercombo. only thing I can say is: holy crap batman, this thing is awesome
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:21 PM   #109 (permalink)
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maidened mine today, using the stock electronics that come in the supercombo. only thing I can say is: holy crap batman, this thing is awesome
Did the same today, and must agree completely!
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Old 01-01-2014, 09:07 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Mod 0.7 main gear, 6mm 18 tooth pinion, pyro 600-11, 2600 rpm at 65% throttle mode 4 Jive
Hi abanihani,

Many thanks for the confirmation.

I have a Pyro 600-12 and Jive 100+ LV. am thinking to do a similar fit to you.

Can I ask was the Mod 0.7 main gear and 6mm 18 tooth pinion from the Logo 500 or 600?

I will like to order the parts when ordering the kit.

Any comments or help would be much appreciated.

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Hi abanihani,

Many thanks for the confirmation.

I have a Pyro 600-12 and Jive 100+ LV. am thinking to do a similar fit to you.

Can I ask was the Mod 0.7 main gear and 6mm 18 tooth pinion from the Logo 500 or 600?

I will like to order the parts when ordering the kit.

Any comments or help would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
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Anthony,

Here are the links from a few pages back, but they were specifically chosen for the gearing on the Pyro 600-11...

MIK4318 Mikado 18 Tooth Herringbone Pinion, M0.7, dia. 6mm

MIK4094 Main Gear 153 Teeth, Modul 0.7


I hope this helps. Cheers!


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Old 01-01-2014, 02:28 PM   #112 (permalink)
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that 18T M0.7 6mm pinion is a discontinued item, so they will go out of stock sometime in the future...
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:37 PM   #113 (permalink)
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M1 gears with 12T or 13T is also an option. Overkill but has no disadvantages to M.7
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FWIW, Kyle got some Gens Ace 6S 5000mah 45C packs for his Logo 700's, and just for the heck of it, did a "fit check" of one of the packs in his Logo 480.

Well, although as I've previously posted, the Gens Ace 4000mah "65C" packs Kyle had when he first got the machine made the heli nose heavy (requiring weight on the tail to balance), because the 65C packs wouldn't go under the pinion far enough back in the frames for balance.

But the 45C packs (although 5000mah vs. 4000mah), do in fact slide under the pinion...so you can get CG no problem with a 5000mah pack on the 480

The RTF weight of the heli with the 5000mah 45C pack is the same as with the 4000mah 65C pack with the weight on the tail. Thus the same performance on display in the debut video posted from the Orlando Heli Blowout can be had with a 5000mah pack on a 480 sized heli. Pretty cool! Loooong flights for as much performance as the machine has at that weight .

The machine is turning out to be even more versatile than we originally experienced.

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Old 01-03-2014, 06:07 AM   #115 (permalink)
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Is there any boom and belt upgrade for 500mm mainblade
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The RTF weight of the heli with the 5000mah 45C pack is the same as with the 4000mah 65C pack with the weight on the tail. Thus the same performance on display in the debut video posted from the Orlando Heli Blowout can be had with a 5000mah pack on a 480 sized heli. Pretty cool! Loooong flights for as much performance as the machine has at that weight .

The machine is turning out to be even more versatile than we originally experienced.

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That's great news, what kind of flight time is loooong flight time lol?

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Is there any boom and belt upgrade for 500mm mainblade
There is no reason why you can't use the Logo 500 20mm boom and belt.
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There is no reason why you can't use the Logo 500 20mm boom and belt.
Do you think these...:

MIK4070 Drive belt 608XL
MIK4071 Tailboom 600mm LOGO 500
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Yes I would say so, judging by the belt sizes it looks like that 500 boom and belt will stretch it by about 40mm,
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Old 01-03-2014, 08:22 AM   #119 (permalink)
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Just take care about the cyclic size servos... 500 mm blades should be the maximum ..
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Well I just saw that eRCMarket was showing 1 Red/Yellow kit with blades in stock. Not long ago they sent me an email with a 14% discount coupon. Guess what I just did?
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