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Old 08-04-2014, 05:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default KDS EBAR V2 swash tilts on take off

Just finishing new 700 build with the EBAR V2 and notice something that might be a little strange if you start the FB unit then move the sticks to check servos are moving correctly than attempt to take off the swash tilts slowly on a weird angle??
The only way i can get this to work is start the EBAR dont touch stick than go.
Also i notice if you land on a unlevel surface and attempt to take of the heli will try to tip over on spool up as the swash plate has titled and same if you land and touch the stick and try to take off again it won't hover very well. I would think it would try to correct it self as you spool up but no such luck here. So the only way it works well is to start the FBL and go fly Does this sound normal or should i be looking to solve this problem ?? Any advice would be good as this would only be my second FBL after owning beastx
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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there is no problem with the ebar ..be it any fbl unit beastx skookum vbar ur not supposed to move the cyclic stick before takeoff ...if u want to check servo, move the collective up and down or tilt the heli to each direction to check the gyro has initialized and swash is moving to compensate the tilt .. ..but do not move cyclic stick, once ur skids have left the ground u can get on ur cyclic n fly normally ....
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well glad i`ve got all that clear as i move on will the 700 size and never really worked that out with my smaller hellies but will be making sure the cyclic stick stays centered till its of the ground . I think i kind of new this lol as the fb unit needs attitude to sense and make corrections, i`m sure i've read it somewhere but have moved the cyclic on my 450 blade beastx so many time just as i take off, but maybe thats why ive done quick adjustments on the swash when it doesn't hover well.
I think i might get the swash leveling tool out again on the 450
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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it could have been alot worst than this with the heli completely tipping over ...but i guess u got the point ..happy landings
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Old 08-06-2014, 11:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Running vbar there has never been a problem moving the cyclic stick before take off. It should be untouched, but a good fbl unit should handle it. Glad I saw this, something to consider before I think about running ebar.
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Old 08-06-2014, 05:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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there is no problem with the ebar ..be it any fbl unit beastx skookum vbar ur not supposed to move the cyclic stick before takeoff ...if u want to check servo, move the collective up and down or tilt the heli to each direction to check the gyro has initialized and swash is moving to compensate the tilt .. ..but do not move cyclic stick, once ur skids have left the ground u can get on ur cyclic n fly normally ....
I always check swash movement with vbar and never get this. If a FBL unit can't handle this then I'd rather not have it on the heli. Maybe I'll pick up a mini vbar for the chase 360 instead of using the EBAR.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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it also depends on fast you lift off during spool up ,if u wait too long on the ground and u have moved the cyclic earlier then there are high chances of tip over beastx does this too ...even if u see any pros flying if they have to start beating their heli from lift off itself they will hover a sec or two put the heli back on ground and then fly ...its safer that way ...may be the surface the heli initially takes off on is perfectly flat so may be the vbar does not tilt ...
but as a safe practice just move collective and check gyro sensing thats it and lift off
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Old 08-09-2014, 04:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think there is something else going on. My TR500 has no problem if I move either stick to make sure all servos are working. Flip the switch, spool up nice and slow since Im a new pilot and make a soft slow takeoff. No tilting or anything.
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