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Old 05-05-2015, 04:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am a long-time helicopter pilot, and I just purchased an invertix 400. While I enjoy flying, I do find it much more difficult to fly than any of my helicopters. As it gets farther away from me, I find it very difficult to gauge orientation. With a helicopter, I have a lot better sense of orientation due to the large rotor disk and differentiation between the pod and boom.

With the invertix, I have had one crash so far (breaking 3 rotors), and one minor tip breaking 1. Both were due to difficulties with orientation and doing the wrong stick inputs. I think this is due to the very symmetrical nature of the quad. After about 8 flights, I feel like I am still having trouble with orientation when I do larger circuits- especially side-on.

Does anyone have any pointers, tips or tricks? Do you generally fly your invertix closer to you than your helicopter? Is there a model in RealFlight that you use to help practice?

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Old 05-05-2015, 08:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It is different than a helicopter in that you don't see the blades and boom. You have to use the color of the canopy and remember orientation. I put lights on mine. They help a bit but it is the color on the canopy that helps the most and practise.

I have a Stingray 500 as well. The same issue there. You have to play close attention to your position.

You can upload the Stingray 500 quad into Realfight from knife edge swap pages.
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've mounted the new NEO V2 props in two different colors. On the front a pair of green ones, and on the back two white ones. The orientation became slightly better.
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I bought some of those as well. My current issues seem to be determining whether the model is tilted towards me or away from me. At slight angles, it is difficult to tell. Maybe I will put one color blades on the right side and a different color on the left side. I downloaded the stingray model, and I will practice with that. Thanks for your input!
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Old 05-07-2015, 02:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You have to fly closer and at perfect light conditions.
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Echopoint,

I just purchased the Invertix 400 - built it today, but still have to solder the XT-60 connectors to my batteries and check motor rotation/controls. Anyway, much like yourself I came for the heli world. Last year I bought a Blade BNF Nano QX. It was different at first, but knowing that I wasn't going to hurt much if I crashed the Nano, I just turned loose and flew it however I wanted. It did not take long at all to catch on. I got about 120 flights or so on the Nano before it gave up on me. They are so much fun. You might want to consider getting the Nano QX and using it for training. If you can develop the sills to keep orientation on a Nano, that should make keeping orientation on the Invertix a breeze as just the canopy on the Invertix is bigger than the Nano. Just a thought..

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Old 07-23-2015, 10:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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One of the things that will help y'all is to install the LED's from Encore for the Invertix. These lights are a big help for orientation.
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if you go led , I would go 'stick leds on the bottom' and just the invertix led at the top side.
I have 1 very bright on the underside of the invertix. so I see it flashing by when I flip it or I seek the orientation on the model. As said topside is easy with the canopy (doesn't really need leds top imho, I have the invertix leds inside the canopy).

IMHO , in the end , its a mind thing when you go from Heli to Quads ( I'm a helicopter pilot and I was also looking for the tail), you will have to adapt to this, you're mind must accept that the model doesn't have a tail to give it 'obvious' orientation.
But if your have all orientations down , it its a beauty to fly in 'any' orientation (always the same behaviour , no drag sideways etc... ).
So where with my heli's I still have a like an automatic 'tail in upright rescue orientation' which I try to get to.
With the invertix , I have learned 'upright' is ok orientation, my orientations have improved ALOT with the invertix.

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Old 07-24-2015, 08:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I actually find it easier to keep my orientation on the INVERTIX than a heli because of the brightly colored canopy and the LED lights. I put my lights on the booms toward the ends close to the motors. Also I have the new V2 props on with white in the back and black props in the front. The different colored props helps but I mainly focus on the colored body-canopy and the LED lights.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the input. My LED's are on the top, so I never see them. I will relocate to the bottom.

What IS great about the invertix is that all my crashes result just a couple of blades. I can handle that! So much better than a heli. My canopy is all beat up to hell, but that's nothing a little tape can't fix!

I am getting better. I think I just need more practice and confidence.
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