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EnstromPilot · 08-08-2016, 10:05 AM

Has anyone used the RC Aerodyne 500 sized raised tail setup with a 4 bladed tail? I am in the process of building an Apache and have both the RCA TT setup and the CNChelicopter 4 blade Apache tail rotor. I had read some posts saying the early versions of this TT setup had issues dealing with the load of a 4 blade tail. Is this still the case, or was it fixed? If not, what gears could I upgrade 2 to make it suitable for operation?

goodhunting · 08-08-2016, 03:24 PM

Align gears melted like butter on a two blade setup. I switched to flex shaft rather than loosing the fuselage.
I know you're asking about RC Aerodyne ones but I believe they are the same as the smart-model ones.
Flexshafts work fine if they are set up correctly.

Gh

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Andy01 · 08-10-2016, 03:17 AM

I have a RCA UH-1N with a 2 blade tail (2x 95mm though), and it works just fine.

There was some 500s that had an Align angled gearbox, and the gears in it were tiny, and didn't last well. The Heliartist gearbox was much bigger, and handled well, though I cannot comment on a 4 blade.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=h...j7xmTHv346M%3A

The photo shows the difference between the Align and Heliartist gearboxes.

Colin

Thtasher · 08-10-2016, 04:04 AM

Colin, I stand to be corrected but I don't think you can get those Heliartist gearbox's any more, unfortunately

(but if you can please let me know )

EnstromPilot · 08-10-2016, 07:42 AM

Thanks for help everyone, this is the gearbox I have: http://www.scaleflying.com/Torque-Tu...ze_p_2645.html, like GH mentioned I believe it is the same as the smart model version. I have heard plenty about the issues with the Align version and stayed away from it for that reason. I did try to hunt down a heliartist gearbox, but had no success. Finding anything from them seems to be nearly impossible now. As for my RCA/Smartmodel gearbox, the 600 size version had some issues, but I haven't seen a lot on the 500 size version. I might set it up and do a few tail rotor full throws tests to load/unload the system. If it works fine, it would be the preferred solution for me. In general, I prefer the gearboxes over installing a flex shaft system.

Andy01 · 08-12-2016, 03:56 AM

I have one of those alloy raised tail kits for my 600 Seahawk. It works OK, but I would suggest changing the gears to stock Align (may be some minor mods required).

When I got mine I tested it to destruction, and the supplied gears failed in about half the time the white Align gears did. Granted it was a pretty severe test that involved running at the governed 1350rpm with full pitch on 4x 105mm tail blades with the mechanics clamped down. The supplied gears lasted about 12-15 seconds, and the Align gears lasted about 25-30 seconds. A new set of Align gears has done about 130 or so flights since.

I can't comment on the 500 sized version though.

Colin

oponohou · 11-23-2016, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnstromPilot

Thanks for help everyone, this is the gearbox I have: http://www.scaleflying.com/Torque-Tu...ze_p_2645.html, .

Hello,
i think you can try this one
http://scaleflying.de/product_info.p...-500-size.html

after speaking with vendor, he told me that is align compatible but with stronger tooth, according him he sold a lot of item to pilots in your ( an mine

) case, who use actually align gearbox and don't want to crash scale ....i think i 'll buy it for Christmas...

Best regards

08-08-2016, 10:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
EnstromPilot Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX	RC Aerodyne 500 size raised TT w/4 bladed tail Has anyone used the RC Aerodyne 500 sized raised tail setup with a 4 bladed tail? I am in the process of building an Apache and have both the RCA TT setup and the CNChelicopter 4 blade Apache tail rotor. I had read some posts saying the early versions of this TT setup had issues dealing with the load of a 4 blade tail. Is this still the case, or was it fixed? If not, what gears could I upgrade 2 to make it suitable for operation?

08-10-2016, 03:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Andy01 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia	I have a RCA UH-1N with a 2 blade tail (2x 95mm though), and it works just fine. There was some 500s that had an Align angled gearbox, and the gears in it were tiny, and didn't last well. The Heliartist gearbox was much bigger, and handled well, though I cannot comment on a 4 blade. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=h...j7xmTHv346M%3A The photo shows the difference between the Align and Heliartist gearboxes. Colin __________________ Vario Long Ranger 700e Seahawk 600 UH-1N 500 Baumann EC-145 800+ (coming soon )

08-10-2016, 04:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
Thtasher Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia	Colin, I stand to be corrected but I don't think you can get those Heliartist gearbox's any more, unfortunately (but if you can please let me know ) __________________ Goblin 570(12s),Trex 500Pro,Trex 450Pro. MD500E(600), Airwolf(500),Agusta A109(Blade450X)

08-12-2016, 03:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
Andy01 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia	I have one of those alloy raised tail kits for my 600 Seahawk. It works OK, but I would suggest changing the gears to stock Align (may be some minor mods required). When I got mine I tested it to destruction, and the supplied gears failed in about half the time the white Align gears did. Granted it was a pretty severe test that involved running at the governed 1350rpm with full pitch on 4x 105mm tail blades with the mechanics clamped down. The supplied gears lasted about 12-15 seconds, and the Align gears lasted about 25-30 seconds. A new set of Align gears has done about 130 or so flights since. I can't comment on the 500 sized version though. Colin __________________ Vario Long Ranger 700e Seahawk 600 UH-1N 500 Baumann EC-145 800+ (coming soon )

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08-08-2016, 03:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
goodhunting Registered Users Join Date: May 2011 Location: Slovenia...somewhere in Europe	Align gears melted like butter on a two blade setup. I switched to flex shaft rather than loosing the fuselage. I know you're asking about RC Aerodyne ones but I believe they are the same as the smart-model ones. Flexshafts work fine if they are set up correctly. Gh Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-10-2016, 07:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
EnstromPilot Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX	Thanks for help everyone, this is the gearbox I have: http://www.scaleflying.com/Torque-Tu...ze_p_2645.html, like GH mentioned I believe it is the same as the smart model version. I have heard plenty about the issues with the Align version and stayed away from it for that reason. I did try to hunt down a heliartist gearbox, but had no success. Finding anything from them seems to be nearly impossible now. As for my RCA/Smartmodel gearbox, the 600 size version had some issues, but I haven't seen a lot on the 500 size version. I might set it up and do a few tail rotor full throws tests to load/unload the system. If it works fine, it would be the preferred solution for me. In general, I prefer the gearboxes over installing a flex shaft system.

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