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Old 03-09-2017, 08:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys its been a while since I have posted a question on this site. I recently purchased a warp 360 that was built by the seller and did not include any electronics. I had 3 new hitec hs65mg servos laying around that I put in it, yes I know they are analog, and a align ds 510 for the tail. I do not have a fbls gyro yet I have one on order. I binded my spectrum 6110x to my radio to center the servos and make sure everything was in working order. All the servos worked properly. The tail worked as it should but when I attached the cyclic servos to the swashplate the servos would barely move like they were under some stress load. I removed the swash links and the servos worked perfectly. Does anyone know why I am having this issue? Does the swashplate need to be oiled? It moves well by hand. I did everything as per the manual. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 03-09-2017, 11:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If the links are really tight this would cause the problem, so would a binding swash plate. Otherwise, the servos do not have enough torque.

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Old 03-10-2017, 10:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes the links are very stiff on the ball ends. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks for your reply btw.
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Old 03-10-2017, 11:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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First, my very personal opinion:
Do not, whatever you do, use analog Hitec's on FBL cyclics.
Just don't, please - it cannot end well [end rant]

Have you got the beefy links ?


These are the bees knees, but they need quite a lot of reaming before they move easy on the ball.

Fixed mine last spring, by midsummer they've tightened up again and needed a bit more work with the ballsizer.

The ones on upper swash is next to impossible to remove, it's easier to unscrew the ball

Someone mentioned that they restrict cyclic, I have'nt noticed - but I'm a very sedate flyer
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Old 03-10-2017, 05:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi yes mine is the same with the beefy linkages. Is there a way to ream them without the special reaming tool? I dont have one. Also i have read on many forums that analog servos work fine on the cyclic of fbls helis. The gyro i ordered accepts both analog and digital. Keep in mind i dont/cant fly 3d. Just basic manouvers like forward flight, banked turns and such. I realize the digital servos are far better and faster but i dont see why i would need them in my case. I had these hs65mg servos lying around brand new so thats why i put them in.
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I would really worry about analog servos in any modern system. Now that we know your experience level, I think the best thing to do is get the best digital servos you can afford for one reason: You cannot afford a failure of your servos where the helicopter is coming at you. What you are doing at your experience level is dangerous and is ill advised. Your servos cannot overcome tight links. Modern digital servos can overcome tight links. You are asking for trouble.

I'm not a great pilot, but I get the best I can afford regardless for the one reason I mentioned. Please take it to heart.

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Old 03-11-2017, 02:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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A quick search turned up this post:
https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...&postcount=435

Have not tried that method myself though...
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I made a reamer with a spare ball link, making slight cuts with a wire cutter, not deep cuts.
Some make a groove with the Dremel cut disk, I made it too but it didn't work for me.
As said above, these links need to be reamed quite a bit, and it must be done with any servos, to have a smooth, easy to tune machine without overloading the BEC.
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well i finally got the new fbls gyro as well as a ball link reamer. Servos working perfectly now. ( yes analog hitec on the cyclic ). Tried it out today with the main blades off and at about 20% throttle it just spins in a circle. Is that because the main blades are off or is this a gyro gain issue. Also should the light on the tarot zyx be blue or red?
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It should definately not spin on the ground with blades removed. It should hold its position. Test the gyro compensation setup without spinning it up. Just rotate the heli on the main shaft axis and observe the tail blades. They probably are moving in the wrong direction
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