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Old 12-02-2017, 09:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Velos 880 Still in Production?

Is the Velos 880 still available and in production? I have noticed that Helidirect is discounting the parts pretty heavily and the kit was not available. I have been wanting to get one and was waiting for the Black Friday sale but the kit was not there.
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Old 12-11-2017, 04:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I emailed and was replied to by Aris a few weeks ago.
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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We have discontinued Velos 880 kit as we have just released the new VelosUAV on the market.
Since most of the Velos 880 sold, where modified in order to be used for comertial applications and
due to the increased demand for a high performance commercial / military UAV helicopter we designed the VelosUAV that outperforms the Velos 880 in terms of flight time and payload capacity.
Spare parts supply will continue as normal for the current Velos 880 owners.
We are also considering a special edition Velos 888 purely for the hobby market but that will be no earlier than in a year by now.








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Old 12-12-2017, 09:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sad days. But if guys don’t buy them, and show up years later expecting them to be available, it’s just not reality these days.

Sad to see the loss in the hobby.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I was fortunate enough to find and purchase one that someone had only built up the frame but decided to not complete it. I received it today.

I have brand new servos that I bought a year or so ago in anticipation of buying a Velos. They are BKS 8001HV cyclic and BKS 8005HV tail servos.

In following this forum the BK's were recommended, however some of you fell out of favor using them. Would that still be the case? I have used them on a Goblin 700 and Urukay and they seemed fine. I am not an aggressive pilot.

Many of you have had your Velos for a while now. What would you change now after owning and flying (esc's, batteries, flybarless system, and motors)?

My biggest question now that the kit has been discontinued what would you buy as spares? Aris has said that parts will be available.

Your input would be greatly appreciated
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Old 12-13-2017, 04:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I wouldn't change anything with the airframe and drive train, they are bullet proof...period.
My Velos 880 is still original, with exception to what I have added for working purposes.
I still use STP oil treatment as an alternative to grease on the main gears and pinions and have seen no wear on those gears of any kind.
I apply a small amount on the main gear every 5 flights or so but could probably go more than that if I wanted. Lubrication is a good thing though and its so simple to apply, I see no need to push it.
I also clean off the residual STP after the first flight to keep the airframe clean which is quick and easy and also keeps the airframe looking new with no dirt or grime.

I re-grease the main rotor spindle thrust bearings every 100 flights because its easy and they also have no wear.

I still fly my original belts as they show no sign of wear, and with the exception of the tail rotor drive belt, are redundant so if you were to ever break one you still have the other motor and the big Velos fly's fine on one...I have done it.
The Velos auto rotates so easy I am not worried about losing the tail drive belt but do inspect it on a regular bases.

I use STP oil treatment on the main shaft bearings as well and they also have no wear.

The only thing I can tell you to be careful off is motor belt tension. Velos has created such a simple belt tension system that its easy to over tension the belts and you'll wear out your motor bearings prematurely.
Belts with teeth don't need to be excessively tight to perform properly so a little snug is all that's necessary.

Power is just plain fun and addictive so chose your motors accordingly.
The Velos can handle anything you mount on it for power.
Batteries will also be your choice depending on what your after. I still fly Pulse 4500's as a good happy medium but again, your choice.

You should be fine with your servo choice.
I had the same set in the beginning but actually lost one main servo due to a broken lead at the servo board due to a bad solder joint.
Buy virtue of being a redundant system, I didn't lose the model to a crash and actually didn't know I had a dead servo until I got curious about it's tracking in flight not being as sharp as it had been.
I disconnected the servos and ran them with the TX and saw a servo wasn't even moving.

I checked the other servo solder joints and found another that was poor also so they were removed and replaced with Xpert servos.
I still fly the BK tail servo as it had good solder connections and it hasn't given me any issues at all.
I have heard that BK has sorted all that out so you shouldn't have any issue. They are good servos but were tainted by someone with poor soldering technique, that's all.

If you are curious about your servos just remove the screws and gently lift the cover to see the solder joints on the harness, if they look solid, you'll be fine as the servos are a great design with really good torque.

FBL is your choice as well, use what you are comfortable with.

Baring any dumb thumb moves or failed electronics the Velos will fly for many, many years without any problems or need for spare parts.

It will be the most impressive model you'll own.
...one last thing, fly the three bladed tail.

...and I am waiting on an FBL issue to be sorted out before I can continue to fly my machine...hopefully be back in the air soon.
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Old 12-13-2017, 08:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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A Viking,

Thank you for your response. I will peek under the hood of the servos and if the solder looks good I will use the BK servos.

I am only aware of the SK720 and Spirit flybarless systems. I have not had any experience with either one. What are the majority of Velos pilots using? My only real experience has been with Ikon and Beast-X. They are easy to set up and they seem to fly fine without much fuss.

I will reread the posts in the forum on motors, escs, and battery choices and decide if I want big power, economy, or middle of the road performance.
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I am very sorry to hear that the Velos 880 has been discontinued, but very pleased that parts will continue to be available.

Great machine, great flying machine, and truly innovative!
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I also agree with Viking a very beautiful machine in the air , I love mine every time I take it out . Attracts a lot of attention. The sound is amazing you will love it .
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sad for the 880.. but If velos can use that new heli to deliver care packages like in Call of Duty.. that is pretty awesome. Id love to be that drone operator.
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I went shopping for one of these a few weeks ago and saw it was discontinued. I am glad to hear they may release it again.
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I went shopping for one of these a few weeks ago and saw it was discontinued. I am glad to hear they may release it again.

Yes indeed...I just like saying "Velos triple 8". Hope it becomes a reality!
I get all nervous just thinking about it.
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes indeed...I just like saying "Velos triple 8". Hope it becomes a reality!
I get all nervous just thinking about it.
Buy lots and lots of spare parts to encourage them. ;-)
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Waited too long to replace mine... Life and work got in the way.
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A Viking,

Thank you for your response. I will peek under the hood of the servos and if the solder looks good I will use the BK servos.

I am only aware of the SK720 and Spirit flybarless systems. I have not had any experience with either one. What are the majority of Velos pilots using? My only real experience has been with Ikon and Beast-X. They are easy to set up and they seem to fly fine without much fuss.

I will reread the posts in the forum on motors, escs, and battery choices and decide if I want big power, economy, or middle of the road performance.
I don't have a Velos, but maybe you should reconsider any option to use the Skookum
While you may still find new 720BE in stock someplace or you may be able to find some 720BE used, there is no support for them from Skookum.
Reading through the Skookum section on the site, there are a lot of frustrated people.

I think MSH should include the 4-servo swash option in their next Brain 2 release (right OTS? lol).
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Old 12-24-2017, 10:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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ticedoff8,

Thank you for your response, other Velos pilots have pm me and I have decided to go with the Spirt Pro. I have one on the way. Hopefully the Brian will go to 4-servo swash!!
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I don't have a Velos, but maybe you should reconsider any option to use the Skookum
While you may still find new 720BE in stock someplace or you may be able to find some 720BE used, there is no support for them from Skookum.
Reading through the Skookum section on the site, there are a lot of frustrated people.

I think MSH should include the 4-servo swash option in their next Brain 2 release (right OTS? lol).
3DIGI supports H4 (4 servo swashplate) from the drop down list. It also has a custom swash mixer with yaw mixing so you can set it up for tandem and CCPM coaxial.
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I have tried the 3digi and BD Axon on my Velos and the Axon flys way better out of the box. Im sure either would fly great if I were better at tuning fbl.

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I was fortunate enough to find and purchase one that someone had only built up the frame but decided to not complete it. I received it today.

I have brand new servos that I bought a year or so ago in anticipation of buying a Velos. They are BKS 8001HV cyclic and BKS 8005HV tail servos.

In following this forum the BK's were recommended, however some of you fell out of favor using them. Would that still be the case? I have used them on a Goblin 700 and Urukay and they seemed fine. I am not an aggressive pilot.

Many of you have had your Velos for a while now. What would you change now after owning and flying (esc's, batteries, flybarless system, and motors)?

My biggest question now that the kit has been discontinued what would you buy as spares? Aris has said that parts will be available.

Your input would be greatly appreciated
Personally I would go with a different servo. I used a certain brand and had a dozen failures in one season. Since switch to Xpert servos on the same machines I have had zero failures. I use Xpert r2s all around on my Velos. I have stocked up on spares myself, I think I have almost every carbon part as a spare plus bearings and belts. There is only one thing I would change and that is the price. Only reason I would change that is so more people could afford to enjoy this beast.

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We have discontinued Velos 880 kit as we have just released the new VelosUAV on the market.
Since most of the Velos 880 sold, where modified in order to be used for comertial applications and
due to the increased demand for a high performance commercial / military UAV helicopter we designed the VelosUAV that outperforms the Velos 880 in terms of flight time and payload capacity.
Spare parts supply will continue as normal for the current Velos 880 owners.
We are also considering a special edition Velos 888 purely for the hobby market but that will be no earlier than in a year by now.








Put me on the waiting list for the 888 special edition!

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