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Old 08-04-2019, 12:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Newer alternative FBL units?

Just curious, to other Spartan fans: What newer / current FBL unit have you found to be most similar in flying 'feel' and / or programming process? Are there any others that, when coming from the Spartan setup mindset, look the most familiar and intuitive?

I have really liked the Spartans since the very first VX1 came out, I have 9 of them now and two Datapods and as long as they're still functioning I'll keep flying them. But I am curious about newer features, like rescue etc.

What I liked from the very beginning is the natural, smooth, and yet very responsive cyclic feel and the super logical intuitive setup, and the ability to do it all from the Datapod.
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Someone at your level would probably prefer a rescue that can do both upright and inverted. The Spirit FBL's have that and I find setup a breeze. No idea if the Geolink stuff interests you that uses GPS for things for like hard deck settings, geofencing, etc.
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I've seen nothing yet with a setup wizard so clearly thought out and intuitive to follow as the Vortex, and I don't need rescue, so I'm happy to stick with my Spartans.

Spirit has good reviews, but from what I've heard you need to be prepared to tinker. It's built from a programmers mentality from what I've seen, but does have a ton of features.

Brain is probably the easiest mainstream one. Tons of features and interoperability, and the setup wizard just needs a bit more thought than the Vortex. Defaults are usually spot on which is nice, and in the main it's well documented and fairly easy to understand.

VBar is basically the gold standard for helis, but I'm unlikely to buy a vControl so it's not for me, and without a vControl I think the setup is still horribly clunky. Tons of registration hoops to jump through, a software interface from the 80's, and horrible text based online manuals. They don't even supply a PDF.

All three have good reports for how they fly, and all three can be tuned for a wide range of feeling in the air.
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I've seen nothing yet with a setup wizard so clearly thought out and intuitive to follow as the Vortex, and I don't need rescue, so I'm happy to stick with my Spartans.

Spirit has good reviews, but from what I've heard you need to be prepared to tinker. It's built from a programmers mentality from what I've seen, but does have a ton of features.

Brain is probably the easiest mainstream one. Tons of features and interoperability, and the setup wizard just needs a bit more thought than the Vortex. Defaults are usually spot on which is nice, and in the main it's well documented and fairly easy to understand.

VBar is basically the gold standard for helis, but I'm unlikely to buy a vControl so it's not for me, and without a vControl I think the setup is still horribly clunky. Tons of registration hoops to jump through, a software interface from the 80's, and horrible text based online manuals. They don't even supply a PDF.

All three have good reports for how they fly, and all three can be tuned for a wide range of feeling in the air.

The Vcontrol/neo setup is by far the easiest unit to Setup.. I switched from spartan to neo Vcontrol and setup is even faster and performance is much better.. not clunky at all, no loops to jump through and there isn’t even software you need to use for setup.. all done from the radio.. nothing on the market compares to its ease of use and performance
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Recommendation: Which GYRO is the better one to purchase when looking for the "Rescue" or "RTH" function?

Something that's easy to set up as well. I will be putting it on a TRex 700.
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Yeah, if you're willing to go the whole vControl route, that can't be beaten. For me that's a lot of money on a radio for helis though, I'd much rather have a good radio that flies everything else too.

I took a look at Spirit again yesterday, and while the software isn't as pretty as Spartan Studio, the setup wizard is pretty nice, and the documentation is excellent.
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I took a look at Spirit again yesterday, and while the software isn't as pretty as Spartan Studio, the setup wizard is pretty nice, and the documentation is excellent.
The FBL that you are most used to using is always the easiest.

Having said that the Spirit is very easy. As you point out, the Wizard walks you through the steps in a very straightforward and intuitive way. There is no 'programming' knowledge required at all.

Spirit also integrates with many brands of Tx and while that integration is not as seamless and 'slick' as a single brand system like Vcontrol, it's perfectly functional and gets the job done.
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I think the Spirit with the Geolink module is one of the few options for RTH.


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Recommendation: Which GYRO is the better one to purchase when looking for the "Rescue" or "RTH" function?

Something that's easy to set up as well. I will be putting it on a TRex 700.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi Guys,

Can any advise if there are any issue with running VX1e on a turbine. I recall that BDís had a shield that covered the gyro for some reason.

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Some years ago the BD at that time had a shield for high frequency resonances. But this was dealt with in later firmware so that it no longer needed the shield.
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