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Old 09-17-2019, 10:26 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Default Why is my K110 esc not being recognized by BLHeli Suite?

So i've got a couple K110s and I've been slowly figuring out how I can flash the ESC with BLHeli. I have an Arduino Nano knockoff that I flashed with the 4way-interface but I can't get it to recognize my K110 ESC.

Can somebody who knows more than me please take a look at these photos and give me your opinion about whether it looks correct?

I have tried it using both the Mac version of BLHeli suite and a Windows 10 version in a virtual machine (the VM works fine for other Windows programming tools such as the old VStabi tool and Spektrum A3X Programmer, Castle Link, etc., so I know it should work for this too).

I don't know if I'm choosing the wrong pinouts for my Arduino Uno or what. I also tried using the MCU pins at bottom of board but the same error occurs: "Serial Interface connected successfully. Connection to ESC#1 Failed! Please check data and power connections to ESC!"
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:24 PM   #122 (permalink)
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For starters, under the BLHeliSuite "Select ATMEL / SILABS Interface" menu dropdown, select the: "SILABS C2 (4way-if)" option.

You need to use the 3-wire soldered connections C2 interface the first time you flash it. Once flashed using the C2 method, the ESC will have the bootloader installed and from then on, you can re-flash and update parameters using the servo cable and the bootloader interface (and you can remove the three soldered wires from the ESC).

Read the manuals - this took me a while to figure out (but I don't have time right now to help you further - my main computer died recently and I'm currently running on a makeshift laptop).

For the 4way-if, you need to use the 3-wire pinout wiring diagram for the C2 interface for the initial C2 flashing. The 2-wire bootloader wiring (which uses the servo cable) is wired to the Arduino differently. Its all in the documentation.
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Old 09-18-2019, 03:25 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Yes, you need a connector (servo for instance) with 3 wires. Go back to page 1 in this tread and read through it again. Also the ESC must be powered with the main battery (before you can connect to the ESC).

You can also read my write up here:
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=629392
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:00 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Thanks very much people. I faintly understood that there are some ESCs that don't have bootloader installed and may need to have that flashed first. I assume the K110 would require it. I'll take another look at the bootloader instructions and pinouts for my Uno board.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:54 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Default SUCCESS! I finally got the K110 ESC flashed with BLHeli

It only took me two days, jeez. I had the right physical wiring the whole time; the only thing I needed to do was select the correct interface in BLHeliSuite -- SiLABS C2 (4way-if) -- to get the Arduino to recognize my ESC, and unfortunately, the option was not available in the Mac version. I got the Windows version of BLHeliSuite and found the right setting when selecting the interfaces.

I also got some clues by plugging in the motor to the K110, since the electric motor makes noise to give you feedback and I could tell *something* was happening when I got it plugged in correctly to my Arduino board. I was flying blind yesterday and couldn't tell if the ESC was communicating at all, but today I could hear it resetting when I made changes. When I heard clearly it was, it gave me hope and I kept looking.

I'm uploading a screen video of the process, in case it helps anybody else in future.

BTW, the correct pinouts on the UNO Arduino board were as follows:

GND(Black), P11(MasterOutSlaveIn/Red), P12 (data/MasterInSlaveOut/Yellow)

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Old 09-19-2019, 02:36 AM   #126 (permalink)
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I've done a little bit of testing. Doing a big air loop with a stock ESC (at 100% IU) the motor bogs down real hard when coming down, so much you might easily crash.

With BLHELI and IU at 100% there's still some bog, but way better.

Tried to go down to 90% IU, but that made it bog a lot more. So 100% seems to bee best.

You can really up the pitch with BLHELI onboard vs stock ESC. And using the K120 tail rotor is also much better vs stock.

Still waiting for the last part in order to do the 2S build... now that should be fun!

Batteries: The myLipos are awesome I must say!

Defo better than my Goo packs (from 2018 must be mentioned).

Looking forward to testing the Gaoneng 1S 520mah HV 3.8V 80C/160C packs. Just need to get a HV charger first...

Happy flying guys!
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Old 09-25-2019, 11:38 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Thanks to all for the info on doing this, I only received my K110 yesterday and was pretty impressed.

I've just finished programming the ESC via an Arduino board and can't believe how easy it is once you know how. Though I did need my reading glasses to solder to the board, man I hate getting old.

Anyway, so now thanks to you guys I have control over the ESC parameters and the difference is incredible.

This is great stuff!
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Old 09-26-2019, 02:40 AM   #128 (permalink)
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I can highly recommend a lamp with a magnifying glass. That makes working on this small stuff so much easier!

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It's in the works mate, but I did rig up an 8W mains LED bulb which helped a lot.
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Old 10-13-2019, 09:40 AM   #130 (permalink)
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I've flashed a few plush 10a in the past.

I just did my xk yesterday. The bootloader works. So after you flash you can remove the 3 wires and just connect through the servo plug. You just need signal and ground. You'll need to change your Arduino to a different interface as well and change the interface selection.
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Old 10-16-2019, 11:59 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Good info P.I.Engineer, but in my case that's exactly what I did 3 weeks ago

When I was soldering the wires to the board I didn't even bother to turn off the iron because once that bootloader was on, those wires were coming off

Thanks for the advice though, because it's the best way to do it.
And some people might not be aware of the BL_Heli documentation.

I know I didn't because I had never used it before but thanks to everyone
here, I was quickly pointed in the right direction.
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Old 11-15-2019, 02:10 AM   #132 (permalink)
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I've flashed a few plush 10a in the past.

I just did my xk yesterday. The bootloader works. So after you flash you can remove the 3 wires and just connect through the servo plug. You just need signal and ground. You'll need to change your Arduino to a different interface as well and change the interface selection.
Goodmorning piengineer

Can you help me , i try yesterday this mod with my arduino uno but without succes.

i can connect to esc , but failed to esc 1 , it says esc seem to be disconnected or not powerup ?

i thought bad solder , i have try to solder 3 or 4 times , with the problem iam loosen my white pad on the esc

Is there an other way , how to flash blheli on it ?

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Old 11-18-2019, 07:41 AM   #133 (permalink)
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this is what i followed originally

DroneHiTech.com ? Flash SiLabs ESC with BLHeli firmware

you might be able to find a trace or a component that the white pad is attached to and use that.
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I accidentally soldered off the white pad yesterday ... is there a second white signal pad on the esc? where can I solder the signal wire?

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Old 11-20-2019, 10:58 AM   #135 (permalink)
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"you might be able to find a trace or a component that the white pad is attached to and use that."

look at the picture on the first page, you can scrape the mask and solder to the trace or directly to the chip itself.
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Is there also an alternative esc for the xk k110?

Which one is already flashed with blheli?

I had ordered a new esc, soldering won't work for me. No steady hand, continuous bridge solder.

Hopefully one of you has a link with alternative esc for the xk k110
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:41 AM   #137 (permalink)
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I found my dongle for flashing blheli 😍 I haven't used it for years, the intimate time I had used it with a trex 150, even before with my beloved mcpx ❤️ now as soon as xk110 arrives it will return to do its job !! God came as a child at Christmas 😅
Where do I download the latest blheli suite update? I have the one for quad racers, is that okay?

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Old 12-09-2019, 03:55 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Here:
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:56 AM   #139 (permalink)
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You want the old (non-"32") BLHeliSuite version: 16.7.14.9.0.1.

The installation ZIP file can be downloaded from this link.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/dx6...4l/BLHeliSuite

Choose the file named: BLHeliSuite16714901.zip

(Link taken from the BLHeli GitHub documentation)
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Thank you guys 😊

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