The upcoming Oxy 7 thread

[Danker16]

Originally Posted by fiddle

especially like the 1500rpm video.

i like that one too, but above 2000rpm sounds ballistic!

[oxidant]

Originally Posted by cyclo

It definitely looks like a big brother of the Oxy 5... Some differences I noticed:

Hello ALIGN.
If the Oxy owner doesn't have a better imagination for a brand new heli...I'm done

[fiddle]

Originally Posted by Danker16

i like that one too, but above 2000rpm sounds ballistic!

I fly my specter 700 at almost exclusively 1500rpm. Good to see this one doing the same (well - not the same - i can't do that stuff in the video )

[jrman83]

Originally Posted by oxidant

Hello ALIGN.
If the Oxy owner doesn't have a better imagination for a brand new heli...I'm done

Another 700 coming out later. I guess you've never flown the Oxy 5 if you feel that way.

[slogoat]

Originally Posted by jrman83

Another 700 coming out later. I guess you've never flown the Oxy 5 if you feel that way.

+1



I really don't understand all the hate about the similar design. Yeah, it's not as exciting as something completely different, but when you know what works... Plus, look at the small oxys. Very similar designs!

[JimJW]

Originally Posted by slogoat

I really don't understand all the hate about the similar design. Yeah, it's not as exciting as something completely different, but when you know what works... Plus, look at the small oxys. Very similar designs!

It’s not the first time that Oxy’s done it. The Oxy 4 was stretched and then ‘Maxed’. The Oxy 5 was stretched to a Meg, a 600. If the 5 Meg was made into a ‘Max’ it’d likely be a 700

[jrman83]

Originally Posted by JimJW

It’s not the first time that Oxy’s done it. The Oxy 4 was stretched and then ‘Maxed’. The Oxy 5 was stretched to a Meg, a 600. If the 5 Meg was made into a ‘Max’ it’d likely be a 700

Hell, until the Kraken came along, damn near every Goblin looked alike just bigger versions.

[JimJW]

Originally Posted by jrman83

Hell, until the Kraken came along, damn near every Goblin looked alike just bigger versions.

Bingo, & the Kraken 580 is just a smaller Kraken 700. …and now that the Raw is out, it seems like someone wants a variant in their favorite size, Raw 280/380/500/580…

[fiddle]

I need to wait until I see the second Oxy 700 to see which one I will get. Then I have to sell something. 4 helis is my personally imposed limit

[Smoggie]

Originally Posted by JimJW

Bingo, & the Kraken 580 is just a smaller Kraken 700. …

Actually the 580 is a totally new design, no parts are interchangeable with the 700 other than maybe some screws. Sure they share the same family design concepts and styling, but that's about it.
This is different to what Oxy have done here where they have carried over the core of the Oxy 5 design over and essentially done a 'super stretch' with many parts interchangeable or based closely on the Oxy 5 part. I'm not criticising Oxy at all here, nothing wrong with the approach they have taken. If you have a sound proven design it makes a lot of sense to use it over the biggest range of sizes possible.

[fiddle]

Originally Posted by Smoggie

Actually the 580 is a totally new design, no parts are interchangeable with the 700 other than maybe some screws. Sure they share the same family design concepts and styling, but that's about it.
This is different to what Oxy have done here where they have carried over the core of the Oxy 5 design over and essentially done a 'super stretch' with many parts interchangeable or based closely on the Oxy 5 part. I'm not criticising Oxy at all here, nothing wrong with the approach they have taken. If you have a sound proven design it makes a lot of sense to use it over the biggest range of sizes possible.

I looked at the FLASH for a while at IRCHA. I could not find any parts that it seemed to share with the oxy 5 that was nearby. Perhaps the skids ... was a little hard to tell on that but nothing else that I could see. It could have been the boom but the people in the tent said no. Although it resembles and oxy5 it doesn't seem to be using interchangeable parts.

[slogoat]

Originally Posted by JimJW

It’s not the first time that Oxy’s done it. The Oxy 4 was stretched and then ‘Maxed’. The Oxy 5 was stretched to a Meg, a 600. If the 5 Meg was made into a ‘Max’ it’d likely be a 700

Yep! I owned every oxy, up until recently. I sold the 2, because despite flying fantastic, it was just too small for me to want to work on. I have a pair of 3s, a 4, a 4 max, and a 5 that I quickly converted to a meg. I'm gonna be hard pressed to decide between a 700 oxy and a specter v2. I absolutely love the way my original specters fly, and really like the changes Ra made, but also enjoy my meg a ton! Decisions...

[jrman83]

Originally Posted by fiddle

I need to wait until I see the second Oxy 700 to see which one I will get. Then I have to sell something. 4 helis is my personally imposed limit

You should change that to 4-700s

[JimJW]

Originally Posted by jrman83

You should change that to 4-700s [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.helifreak.com/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif[/IMG]

Yeah, certain Heli’s just don’t count

Another option would be to limit the total amount of blade mm’s:
2x 180mm = 360mm
2x 380mm = 760mm
2x 700mm = 1400mm
Total: 2520mm

Maybe I’ll try to keep it under 7000

[fiddle]

well - there is a size limit to the table I store them on four 700s probably would not fit What will probably go is my Goblin 500 Sport. Can't be getting rid of the oxy4 max as that was the first kit I built and no way i'm getting rid of specter or oxy 5 MEG.

[cyclo]

Originally Posted by fiddle

I looked at the FLASH for a while at IRCHA. I could not find any parts that it seemed to share with the oxy 5 that was nearby. Perhaps the skids ... was a little hard to tell on that but nothing else that I could see. It could have been the boom but the people in the tent said no. Although it resembles and oxy5 it doesn't seem to be using interchangeable parts.

Just looking at the pics I think the aluminum pieces holding the servos and motor together along with the counter bearing could be the same. Swash also appears to be the same along with the blade grips (except the blade grip arm which is longer). The tail section is the exact same as those on my HFs. I suspect the Sprag OWB and maybe the main shaft are also the same as in the HF.

To me this is a good thing if many of the parts are interchangeable with those on my Oxy 5 HFs.

[fiddle]

Originally Posted by cyclo

Just looking at the pics I think the aluminum pieces holding the servos and motor together along with the counter bearing could be the same. Swash also appears to be the same along with the blade grips (except the blade grip arm which is longer). The tail section is the exact same as those on my HFs. I suspect the Sprag OWB and maybe the main shaft are also the same as in the HF.

To me this is a good thing if many of the parts are interchangeable with those on my Oxy 5 HFs.

Oh that could be - I don't have the HF so not sure what differences there are there. I should mention that it did look like the main gear was the same. But most of the frame pieces definitely are not the same. They appear the same at first glance but when you look closer, they are the same concept but not the same.

[jrman83]

Only thing different in the HF is the tail and really this is the only thing that carried over into the Flash that I'm aware of. Main grips are not the same, 2-bolts for the grip arm vs 1, main hub is bigger, as I would suspect the spindle is bigger as well.

[Smoggie]

Originally Posted by fiddle

I looked at the FLASH for a while at IRCHA. I could not find any parts that it seemed to share with the oxy 5 that was nearby. Perhaps the skids ... was a little hard to tell on that but nothing else that I could see. It could have been the boom but the people in the tent said no. Although it resembles and oxy5 it doesn't seem to be using interchangeable parts.

the parts i imagine are interchangeable are things like the one way bearing/hub assembly, the main bearings and their housings, the servo mountings (and various other smaller frame parts, spacers etc), the swash etc.
A larger diameter shaft would have needed larger bearings and bearing blocks which would have needed a whole new OWB bub assembly and wider frame spacing, the swash would have to be bigger, the head block totally redesigned etc etc, ultimately meaning nothing would be common.

The boom probably wont be identical but the diameter probably is the same meaning the mountings and tail box and linkages etc can be shared. This is not a criticism, it makes sense to use common parts where possible.

[mgrezmer]

Please keep in mind that the Flash shown at IRCHA was a developmental prototype and NOT a pre-production prototype.


The only part compatible with the Oxy 5, to my knowledge, was the HF tail, and the only person who could appreciate the over designed tail would be Tareq Alsaadi.


Many changes could appear before production. Vietnam is completely shutdown. Nothing goes in or out, no one goes to work.


Be patient, this is a difficult time.