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Old 02-20-2021, 08:41 AM   #281 (permalink)
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Just do not leave the PowerBox wires in the sun, they deteriorate faster than a iron in saltwater. Difficult in a helicopter with an open frame to keep wires out of the UV rays.
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Old 02-20-2021, 08:42 AM   #282 (permalink)
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Just do not leave the PowerBox wires in the sun, they deteriorate faster than a iron in saltwater. Difficult in a helicopter with an open frame to keep wires out of the UV rays.
Good to know, thanks for sharing.
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Old 02-20-2021, 01:26 PM   #283 (permalink)
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Just do not leave the PowerBox wires in the sun, they deteriorate faster than a iron in saltwater. Difficult in a helicopter with an open frame to keep wires out of the UV rays.
I have been using this wires for quite a few years (since the intro) and it does become a little yellow....nothing more from what I saw..??
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Old 04-29-2021, 02:48 AM   #284 (permalink)
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A new challenger emerges, IWISS IWS-1442L which is a clone of the Hozan P-707, which is the big brother do the Hozan P-706. Compared to the P-706 the 707 has more dies and a compound hinge that amplifies force applied to the handle.


Compared to the Hozan original this chinese copy probably isn't as high quality but should suffice for occasionally crimping servo connectors. It costs $32 compared to $80 for the Hozan tool.





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Old 05-03-2021, 05:02 AM   #285 (permalink)
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If I was to use the crimper above, does this crimp the servo connector in one hit like say the hobby king one. Or is it a 2 stage job ? I.e can the crimp be performed with the one tool? In either 1 stage or 2 stages.
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Two stage crimping. More information on the Hozan - https://www.hozan.co.jp/E/catalog/Crimpers/P-706.html
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Two stage crimping. More information on the Hozan - https://www.hozan.co.jp/E/catalog/Crimpers/P-706.html

That's for the P-706 the IWISS is a copy of the P-707


https://www.hozan.co.jp/E/catalog/Crimpers/P-707.html


Two stage crimping is actually easier with tools that don't have a terminal holder. You can lightly precrimp the insulation and then line up the wire perfectly in the terminal before finalizing. It's slower but you get perfect results every time. A magnifying visor will help with this.


On the P-706 (the P-707's little brother) I found that the 1.4mm die was perfect for 22-26 AWG wire, you can just bear down on it without worrying about over crimping. The far side of the conductor crimp should be lined up with the side of the tool, the near side will stick out about 0.5mm and form a bellmouth just like the official tool does. For the insulation crimp you should only squeeze enough for the crimp wings to hug the wire.


The crimp should look like this (this was done with the Hozan P-706)



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Old 05-05-2021, 05:57 AM   #288 (permalink)
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More information on the Hozan P-707 crimper

https://www.hozan.co.jp/E/catalog/Crimpers/P-707.html

I have found using similar crimpers that you can hold the connector in the tool and slide the wire into place and then crimp. With the jaws shut to the point where crimping will start leaves plenty of room for the wire.
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Old 05-08-2021, 05:10 AM   #289 (permalink)
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Has anybody tried the iwiss 1442l, I’ve looked them up and they are a bit pricey in the uk, I don’t mind paying for a decent tool but I would like to know if they actually work.
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Just bought one, works well

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Old 05-08-2021, 07:35 PM   #291 (permalink)
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Has anybody tried the iwiss 1442l, Iíve looked them up and they are a bit pricey in the uk, I donít mind paying for a decent tool but I would like to know if they actually work.

If the price is too close to an actual Hozan P-707 then just get the P-707. The only reason to get the IWISS clone is it's cheaper.
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I think I paid £32?..

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Old 08-21-2021, 12:07 AM   #293 (permalink)
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Alright, on a mission to make some leads and want them done as well as I can muster. I have the Hozan P-706, works well enough with the 22awg wire Atomic recommended (OEM quality wire) and Hansen 22awg etc, but just grabbed a HT-66 on the bay. The three that were available are all pretty old, but I went with the most recent serial number and will hope for best - looks like it was calibrated in 1983, so we'll see...

Anyway, looks like the HT-73 can be had fairly cheaply, but it doesn't sound like those of you who have one have had much success getting true 20awg into housings, is that still the case? Worth the bother?

If an HT-95 or 208A shows up at a reasonable price (or better yet, one that's in great condition) I'll grab one along with the genuine mini-pv terminals that are linked earlier in the thread, but for now will continue trying the Hansen terminals.

Atomic - is it worth getting the P-707 for the slightly smaller 1.6 round die vs. the 706 1.8? I can't imagine it'll make much of a difference, but I do find I struggle at times getting even 22awg into housings...

Lastly, for those using the Powerbox wire, what wire strippers are you using? I have the Maxi wire, but I've tried every wire stripper in my arsenal and all of them either nick the conductor, or straight up cut and remove a good portion of it.
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Old 08-28-2021, 02:37 AM   #294 (permalink)
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These aren't connectors exactly but they look like they'd make soldering wire to board connections much more easy and reliable.

https://www.molex.com/molex/products...rimp_terminals

https://www.jst-mfg.com/product/sear...1&id=26&page=1


And they also have these stand alone ones that don't have a terminal block.

https://www.molex.com/molex/products/family/solderright


Only place I have seen these in hobby servos is inside Futaba servos to connect the lead and pot wires to the PCB. which is weird because it seems to me these would make soldering the leads a lot less labor intensive and possibly even doable by machine.
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Old 08-28-2021, 07:56 AM   #295 (permalink)
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If I had to do it all over again I'd take a serious look at the new RC ProPlus system for making servo leads.

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/rcproplu...-rca1918crimp/

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/connectors-and-wires/
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If I had to do it all over again I'd take a serious look at the new RC ProPlus system for making servo leads.

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/rcproplu...-rca1918crimp/

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/connectors-and-wires/
This looks interesting. I'd like to see the instructions but couldn't find them anywhere. I see three shops in UK and EU that carry it, but not much information.

Isn't listed or even mentioned on rcproplus.com.
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This looks interesting. I'd like to see the instructions but couldn't find them anywhere. I see three shops in UK and EU that carry it, but not much information.

Isn't listed or even mentioned on rcproplus.com.
Check Georges FB page, might have to go back a few months.
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If I had to do it all over again I'd take a serious look at the new RC ProPlus system for making servo leads.

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/rcproplu...-rca1918crimp/

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/connectors-and-wires/
I actually have their 550mm cables for the Scorpion esc's, they seem pretty nice, though I've found the pins pull out of the connectors fairly easy. I wish more folks in the US carried their wire and crimp/press tool.
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Old 08-28-2021, 02:54 PM   #299 (permalink)
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If I had to do it all over again I'd take a serious look at the new RC ProPlus system for making servo leads.

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/rcproplu...-rca1918crimp/

https://www.hely-shop.co.uk/connectors-and-wires/
That's interesting... I ordered a set. Shipping was half the cost.
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That's interesting... I ordered a set. Shipping was half the cost.
Keep us posted. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before they're available here in the US.
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