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12-09-2010, 11:02 PM | #61 (permalink) |
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1) yes, above picture is RX only, but not for sample AR7000 since that's not a highres receiver, it only support 1024.
2. VBar 3. Both 4. This is an issue with FW in the Satellites, internally in a RX there is satellites too, so if they are old, the more receivers the more stable, a AR921 + 2 satellites are much less likely to have issues than VBar + 2 satellites, it do happen though. |
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12-09-2010, 11:15 PM | #62 (permalink) |
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Mr. Mel,
Thank you for the very, very quick response to my questions sir. I have a friend who is setting up a Trex 550 with a V-Bar, and planned for no separate receiver (only two satellites). As I am relatively new to V-Bar (only a few months into using two of them), I felt it better to ask the expert. Thank you again sir.
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12-09-2010, 11:16 PM | #63 (permalink) |
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Just make sure he runs "spektrum satellite" in rx step, not highres option and its good to go.
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12-09-2010, 11:20 PM | #64 (permalink) |
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Thank you again sir!
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12-17-2010, 10:57 PM | #65 (permalink) |
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I asked ReadyHeli what batch number satellites they're currently selling and was told TA010B. I just received the newest version DX8 and the satellite that came with the AR8000 was HT009X. Hopefully the old stock will sell out soon...
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01-03-2011, 09:52 AM | #66 (permalink) |
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I have a DX7 with JR DSM2 satellites. Did I have the same problem?
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01-03-2011, 11:04 AM | #67 (permalink) |
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Nope. The DX7 is a LoRes transmitter. The DX7SE will experience the issue. As long as you select the regular Spektrum satellites option in the Receiver setup tab and not the HiRes option, then you're safe with whatever transmitter you use.
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01-10-2011, 08:10 AM | #68 (permalink) |
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Is this issue being fixed in a future release? It seems like at a minimum Mikado should remove the option to use hi-res mode in 5.1 until they can get the issue solved.
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01-10-2011, 08:14 AM | #69 (permalink) | |
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Yes, I suspect they will remove the option all together next release. |
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01-11-2011, 07:36 AM | #70 (permalink) |
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Mr Mel,
i'm running 2 spektrum sattelites in "normal" mode on a miniVbar blueline Pro version. When i look into the logfile, it shows a record of constantly switching antennas, i had one crash with this miniVbar malfunctioning. So my question is, is this something to be worried about? Added my logfile. Regards, Homer.
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01-11-2011, 07:37 AM | #71 (permalink) |
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Check the satellite cables, wiggle them, unplug one at the time and make sure you have connection.
Also do a range test. |
01-11-2011, 07:54 AM | #72 (permalink) |
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Mr Mel,
i will change the sattelite cables with longer ones i have, (the ones i use now are shorter ones that both came with a receiver-sattelite combination). I have wiggled them before, because i also thought this could be the cause. Thank you Sir, for replying so quickly. Regards, Homer.
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01-11-2011, 08:13 AM | #73 (permalink) |
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Mr Mel,
i've changed the sattelite cables and the only statement i get in the log is: "good health". There is no visible damage on the shorter cables, but obviously, they are the fragile point in the sattelite system. Thank you Sir, Regards, Homer.
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01-11-2011, 11:14 AM | #74 (permalink) |
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If you use a little shoe goo where the wires go into the plug, it will keep the contacts in the plugs from wiggling.
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01-11-2011, 11:37 AM | #75 (permalink) | |
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I must admit that the short cables are heavily used, (unplugged and inserted, many times), when i used them in the receiver-sattelite connection, the reason that i prefer to use them with the miniVbar is because of their lenght. You can't seem to get those short ones, seperate. And it's for my 450ProFBL, so, those short ones are neat and tidy on that small heli. Sorry for this long explanation, but my Trex 700EFBL build is almost done and i'm also using a miniVbar, so it's important to me not to make the same mistakes as on my 450, that had one crash as result of the miniVbar failing (it suddenly, shut down in mid air, it did reinitialise, but by then, it was too late) and that was during take off with a freshly charged lipo and it was initialised before i took off. Regards, Homer.
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01-11-2011, 07:07 PM | #76 (permalink) | |
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Frustrating as I have a newly acquired DX7SE that I'd like to run at 11ms with my VBAR using the slew of satellites I have laying around. And, I cannot seem to locate replacement satellites intended, or specifically designed, for the AR8000 and AR7600, just units for the other RX's. It would seem the true "newer" hi-res satellites aren't available separately (yet).
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01-24-2011, 04:24 PM | #77 (permalink) |
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ok im now confuzed as a smarty in a smarty box!!!
iv read throu the entire thread,all i seem to pick up is satalites are the problem with the mikado blue box,and others,how come they arnt an issue with the origanal rx(ar7100 + dx7se)?when running flybar.only now going to vbar are all the problems and crashes happening.trex 700 went in on first flight after upgrading the vbar to the pro update after about 4 minutes flying.reason for update is it's the only way to adjust the gain on tail!all went very well before doing the update no issues at all,just had a tail wag that irratated me and could not do any adjustment to!im sorry but personaly mikado vbar is the problem period!! Last edited by frankinstien; 01-25-2011 at 05:20 AM.. Reason: wrong place to explain my issues.sorry. |
01-25-2011, 03:41 AM | #78 (permalink) | |
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Above issue is literary something that happens once in xxx starts if your unlucky. and above tests I did was without VBar, so again it has nothing to do with VBar. What it does not do, is happen out of the blue after you got a good connection. So in your case other aspects have to be looked at first. For sample I would guess a bad satellite cable is about 1000% more likely or more. |
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01-25-2011, 05:39 AM | #79 (permalink) |
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Okay, i know the pilot of this heli and its sad to say that after an extended period of time he has not been able to fly due to repair bills from a previous crash which took place at the SA champs, needless to say he took first place at the competition and the heli went down the same day. After a vbar was supplied to him for testing and the setup done accordingly the heli was taken out for the first time since november 2010. There was a bad tail wag which was fixed this past weekend by doing an upgrade to the pro software. The heli has a total 4 minutes fly time before total loss of signal and control, and not 2 x 12 minute flights as stated above. We literally watched a Rex 700 plummet to its death with no way to recover. And yes we can all say we should have bound in low-res mode and should have followed instructions etc, if anyone would like to see the config file and logs they are more than welcome to them as they are on my computer. The setup was done in low-res with a DX7SE and AR7100 sats directly into the Vbar. Anyway Mikado are interested in the logs which we will send off tonight but for the rest running the above setup be warned your heli could die a horrible death. In the meantime the pilot is in the same situation as November, sitting with a huge repair bill.
Maybe with Bert leaving align they need a new pilot to sponsor, heck we have a top pilot in SA come on align spread your money in the direction of this young pilot he could do with some spares. Video of pilot flying an EL Cheapo 450 V2 [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9nRrwAUBTQ[/ame] Last edited by WayneVanRooyen; 01-25-2011 at 07:09 AM.. |
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