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mb-1953 · 09-21-2016, 04:28 PM

I have been unable to set up the R1 cyclic and R1T tail servo with a Hellicommand HC3SX fbl. The pitch and elevator servo don't move and act they don't have power. If I turn the transmitter off they go into failsafe and when I turn the transmitter back on they all act normally. The Hellicommand people are saying there is a compatibility issue with their HC3SX and 3SX fbl's and Xpert. This is my first set of Xpert servos. I have a dozen Hellicommand fbls. Does anyone know if there are other compatibility issues with these servos??

Luis Murillo · 09-21-2016, 08:24 PM

All I can say hope you get them working, this servo are one of the best servo I try coming from using only futaba servos.

boogie12 · 09-23-2016, 08:26 PM

What are you using to power your electronics?

Luis Murillo · 09-24-2016, 10:11 AM

2s lipo no step down. I have it on my sab nitro.

10pilot · 09-25-2016, 07:20 PM

No other compatibility issue that I've heard of and I've been with XPERT for awhile. Are you Facebook capable? If so, search "XPERT RC GROUP" and I'll add you. You can post your question there. It might be a power draw issue or a pulse/frequency issue. No experience with helicommand. We've got some smart cats on the FB page but no guarantees. Have you tried running through an external BEC like a WR or something? What did helicommand say the compatibility issue was?

boogie12 · 09-25-2016, 07:47 PM

I've only seen one issue similar to yours but it was on a E heli with vbar NEO and using a different brand of servo. The pilot had to install a opti power backup guard to buffer the power from the bec. When he would power the heli on, two servos would not initialize unless they were unplugged from the fbl and reconnected. If you have a backup guard or a buffer pack hanging around I would try it and see what happens.

But before all of that I would check the helicommand settings for the servos and make sure everything is correct. I'm not very familiar with helicommand so my information on that unit will be limited.

mb-1953 · 09-26-2016, 06:12 AM

I was using the bec from a kosmik 200, master and slave outputs.
I am an old timer and don't belong to facebook. The helicommand settings were correct for the servos. The link on helicommand is https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=758974

ChopsyWA · 09-26-2016, 09:15 AM

FYI I found that Helidirect make note in the R1T servo details that they will not function/non-compatible with Bavarian Demon 3x/3sx (ie. Helicommand).
This is a bummer as these servos are fantastic...
Need the new Axon or a different currently available fbl.

10pilot · 09-27-2016, 02:11 PM

So what you found out is true. After chatting with Willie and Greg A, it's doubtful there will be any updates to the helicommand as it's an old system. Greg will try to send Xperts to BD once the Axon is released to check compatibility. I don't know of any other workaround other than what's been mentioned here already.

mb-1953 · 10-02-2016, 07:25 AM

Thanks guys, I am going to use a Spirit pro with them.

MrEmail · 10-20-2016, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis Murillo

All I can say hope you get them working, this servo are one of the best servo I try coming from using only futaba servos.

Hi luis to which futaba servo's do you have them compared

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Luis Murillo · 10-20-2016, 11:19 PM

The BLS 175HV sbus1 and if I remember right the 272sbus1 cycle servo.
At that time I was not looking for speed, more for torque. The Xpert has speed and torque!

09-21-2016, 04:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
mb-1953 Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2014	R1 compatibility I have been unable to set up the R1 cyclic and R1T tail servo with a Hellicommand HC3SX fbl. The pitch and elevator servo don't move and act they don't have power. If I turn the transmitter off they go into failsafe and when I turn the transmitter back on they all act normally. The Hellicommand people are saying there is a compatibility issue with their HC3SX and 3SX fbl's and Xpert. This is my first set of Xpert servos. I have a dozen Hellicommand fbls. Does anyone know if there are other compatibility issues with these servos??

09-23-2016, 08:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
boogie12 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2011	What are you using to power your electronics? __________________ SYNERGY N5C, Xpert, VBAR NEO, ROTOR RAGE 30%, O.S.55HZ-R SYNERGY E5s Rail 626/106,Scorpion 4035 560kv,Hobbywing ,Vbar NEO,Xpert Vcontrol N556 Xpert R2's OS Powered Nitro Beast TEAM SYNERGY FIELD REP XPERT TEAM PILOT

09-25-2016, 07:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
boogie12 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2011	I've only seen one issue similar to yours but it was on a E heli with vbar NEO and using a different brand of servo. The pilot had to install a opti power backup guard to buffer the power from the bec. When he would power the heli on, two servos would not initialize unless they were unplugged from the fbl and reconnected. If you have a backup guard or a buffer pack hanging around I would try it and see what happens. But before all of that I would check the helicommand settings for the servos and make sure everything is correct. I'm not very familiar with helicommand so my information on that unit will be limited. __________________ SYNERGY N5C, Xpert, VBAR NEO, ROTOR RAGE 30%, O.S.55HZ-R SYNERGY E5s Rail 626/106,Scorpion 4035 560kv,Hobbywing ,Vbar NEO,Xpert Vcontrol N556 Xpert R2's OS Powered Nitro Beast TEAM SYNERGY FIELD REP XPERT TEAM PILOT

09-26-2016, 09:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
ChopsyWA Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2014	FYI I found that Helidirect make note in the R1T servo details that they will not function/non-compatible with Bavarian Demon 3x/3sx (ie. Helicommand). This is a bummer as these servos are fantastic... Need the new Axon or a different currently available fbl. __________________ Diversion 760, Specter 700, Oxy5, TDF, Kraken, Logo600, Dune 600, Vcontrol Touch 3DME Alloy Vtouch Design Team - https://3dminiatureengineering.com/p...m-case-upgrade

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09-21-2016, 08:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Luis Murillo Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	All I can say hope you get them working, this servo are one of the best servo I try coming from using only futaba servos.

09-24-2016, 10:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
Luis Murillo Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	2s lipo no step down. I have it on my sab nitro.

09-25-2016, 07:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
10pilot Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009	No other compatibility issue that I've heard of and I've been with XPERT for awhile. Are you Facebook capable? If so, search "XPERT RC GROUP" and I'll add you. You can post your question there. It might be a power draw issue or a pulse/frequency issue. No experience with helicommand. We've got some smart cats on the FB page but no guarantees. Have you tried running through an external BEC like a WR or something? What did helicommand say the compatibility issue was?

09-26-2016, 06:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
mb-1953 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2014	I was using the bec from a kosmik 200, master and slave outputs. I am an old timer and don't belong to facebook. The helicommand settings were correct for the servos. The link on helicommand is https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=758974

09-27-2016, 02:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
10pilot Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009	So what you found out is true. After chatting with Willie and Greg A, it's doubtful there will be any updates to the helicommand as it's an old system. Greg will try to send Xperts to BD once the Axon is released to check compatibility. I don't know of any other workaround other than what's been mentioned here already.

10-02-2016, 07:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
mb-1953 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2014	Thanks guys, I am going to use a Spirit pro with them.

10-20-2016, 11:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
Luis Murillo Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	The BLS 175HV sbus1 and if I remember right the 272sbus1 cycle servo. At that time I was not looking for speed, more for torque. The Xpert has speed and torque!

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