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Old 12-28-2016, 11:41 AM   #1
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I may get an Align 470, and I am not sure if I should get the metal or plastic. The metal version seems better as it is only slightly heavier. Thank you for your help.
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Old 12-28-2016, 12:44 PM   #2
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The LP is easier on the wallet.
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Old 12-28-2016, 12:47 PM   #3
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You wouldn't notice the weight difference. It's only a dozen grams or so I think.

The main difference: do you like bling?

If you like bling the metal is for you. It certainly has no shortage of bling lol.
If you don't like bling, the plastic is obviously for you.
If you couldn't care less, it comes down to how much you would rather pay.

The electronics are the exact same. Other than the servos coming with metal cases, though the specs are identical.
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Old 12-29-2016, 01:49 AM   #4
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I've got the LM coming, simply because I know I will end up upgrading simply for something to do later.
I got mine less ESC and servos, simply because I want to try something different, no other reason.
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Old 12-29-2016, 06:51 AM   #5
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I want the heavy metal version!
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Old 12-29-2016, 07:52 PM   #6
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I got the plastic basic kit because I don't like bling, it's lighter, cheaper, cheaper to fix and I feel like plastic has less vibes and breaks less.
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:36 AM   #7
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I may get an Align 470, and I am not sure if I should get the metal or plastic. The metal version seems better as it is only slightly heavier. Thank you for your help.
I don't think it matters all that much, metal isn't just for looking pretty but its far from needed everywhere. I'm sure if I got either of them, some parts from the other might end up on it eventually. If you think for a second that you like shiny parts more, get that version...

...just a feeling that its more likely to go on an upgrade frenzy on a plastic version, ending up costing more in the end.

I'd get the metal, and then maybe look into do a switch to plastic head when I need to replace it, but only if its beneficial in some way like break away parts that saves something more expensive to fix...
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:24 AM   #8
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I don't think it matters all that much, metal isn't just for looking pretty but its far from needed everywhere. I'm sure if I got either of them, some parts from the other might end up on it eventually. If you think for a second that you like shiny parts more, get that version...

...just a feeling that its more likely to go on an upgrade frenzy on a plastic version, ending up costing more in the end.

I'd get the metal, and then maybe look into do a switch to plastic head when I need to replace it, but only if its beneficial in some way like break away parts that saves something more expensive to fix...
Yup, shiney bits get me, just like carbon fiber on my bike. Could almost call it a fetish.
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:29 AM   #9
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I have a plastic built but not flying just yet. And the deals were so good I got a metal kit on the way lol. Either will be great, as stated if you are a blinger, get the bling kit. Think hard about getting the combo though. At most you'll net $80ish for the BeastX and the servos while fast are starting to develop a bit of slop for some. I got the kit and put KST-215s into mine.
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:23 PM   #10
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I may get an Align 470, and I am not sure if I should get the metal or plastic. The metal version seems better as it is only slightly heavier. Thank you for your help.
470LM vrs 470LP I own / built both kits

Metal Tail
Plastic you will not be able to take advantage of the new metal tail rotor shaft.

Metal Block
Servo changing is improved w the metal and w plastic problems installing my KST with Align screws

LiPo Mount
Lengthen LiPo mount is included w the 470LM kit

Metal Head
Bearings and races are a lot easier to install due to better machining tolerances.

Control Rod
Carbon tail control rod is less parts and can be R&R after a crash wo removing the tail boom.

On the Buy add

470L Metal Tail Rotor Shaft Assembly H47T021XX $9.99
470L Battery Mount H47B003AX $12.99
470L Counter Thread Main Linkage Rod Set H47H004AX $5.99
74 Tail Blade HQ0743A $7.99

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Old 12-30-2016, 01:28 PM   #11
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I can't see any reason the metal tail shaft won't fit the plastic tail case? The tail shaft for the LM and LP are the same.
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:35 PM   #12
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Someone who has the LM and carbon tail pushrod, can you confirm whether or not there are any tail pushrod supports? The pushrod replacement doesn't appear to come with any.
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:41 PM   #13
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I can't see any reason the metal tail shaft won't fit the plastic tail case? The tail shaft for the LM and LP are the same.
Yes

Form & Fit are the same but Function is not the same w a plastic kit

470L Metal Tail Rotor Shaft Assembly H47T021XX $9.99

Per Align
●Use for T-REX 470L.
●Major design for 470L utilize longer tail rotor shaft to achieve more tail pitch. Specially design to enhance tail lock performance during low speed flight and flight with higher negative pitch settings. Besides,this replaceable tail shaft design also make the maintenance much convenient

My plastic 470L tail is not the same as my metal 470L.

To remove the metal shaft on my plastic 470L I have to take apart the whole plastic tail assembly

To remove the metal shaft on my metal 470L just remove 1 set screw.

Big Big difference.

This is one of the reasons why I have a metal 470L.
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:44 PM   #14
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For the OP to have a weight comparison my LM all up weight is 1220 grams.

Build:
Stock motor
HW 60A V4 esc
Glacier 1800 Lipo
KST 215 cyclic, Align DS535 Mini tail servo
74mm tail blades
Metal boom support
Mini VBar w/ two Spektrum sats

Maybe others can post all up weight for the LP
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:46 PM   #15
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I'll weigh mine in a couple days when I get home.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:09 PM   #16
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Someone who has the LM and carbon tail pushrod, can you confirm whether or not there are any tail pushrod supports? The pushrod replacement doesn't appear to come with any.
No push rod supports on the LM. CF rod straight from servo to bell crank.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:19 PM   #17
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1100grams

LP with metal main rotor housing and metal tail belt unit

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HW 60A V4 esc
Opti 1600 Lipo
Turnigy TGY-306 cyclic, MKS 73i tail servo
74mm tail blades
VBar NEO w/VLink

Having changed out a couple of components to metal my model is still a good 4 ounces lighter than dannyms. I think that is quite a lot for this size model.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:33 PM   #18
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No push rod supports on the LM. CF rod straight from servo to bell crank.
Noice, that's what I was hoping.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:33 PM   #19
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Built and fly then LM but there's a few things I would prefer in plastic. Main grips, tail grips, bearing blocks, possibly the rotor hub. I don't care about the bling, (aside from the ugly LP tailcase) but metal has its benefits. My only gripe with plastic is you are limited on the number of times you can screw into it before your threads break down.

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Old 12-31-2016, 09:46 PM   #20
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On the plastic kit, a lot of the plastic things have a metal treated insert which is great. the tail case has no metal insert, it uses little locknuts that you thread into which is great. I want to say that the only thing you screw straight into plastic is the tail servo mount and the tail boom clamp.
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