Jeti integration

[eric303]

Does anyone know if there is flybarless controller that also supports quad copters and full Jeti integration?

[myxiplx]

No. Spartan had this capability, but Jeti wouldn't release the plugin for it.

A similar issue happened with Spirit, they have an Aero firmware, and want to release integration for that, but Jeti won't allow it.

Unfortunately Jeti control which integration they are going to allow, and they have chosen not to allow this to be used for anything other than heli flybarless controllers.

[etherbatxx]

interesting. i never heard of anyone wanting to do this before.

what is the advantage of connecting a $200 heli fbl controller onto a $200 quad?

wouldn't one of the cheap quad specific controllers be a better fit?

[eric303]

Thats a bit of a bummer. I guess I am just spoiled by all this very nice integration...I recently upgraded to Jeti.

[Fauropitotto]

Betaflight allows tuning via OSD, so there's no need for integration with Jeti. Any $30 flight controller with a $7 OSD can let you do all your tuning and telemetry through your goggles.

[aziz76]

Originally Posted by myxiplx

they have chosen not to allow this to be used for anything other than heli flybarless controllers.

Not quite true. The Bavarian Demon Cortex pro and the Axon both now support Jeti integration. One for fixed wing and the other for helis.

[eric303]

I was not planning on FPV at this time...that is good to know...thanks for the info

[gunny_jeeves]

Company line: As I understand it...
Jeti Assist receivers are coming and jury is out as to whether they might be capable as Multirotor FC and plane FC. (So imagine a RX capable of full integration, and multi, plane SAFE, plus 3D assistance, plus all benefits of a 3axis gyro. With or without accelerometers.) they want to fully release that first.

Makes sense as Jeti is mostly 40% ers and Turbines. Heli growth was thanks to BK and integration.

My opinion?
Integration is absolutely a game changer. Sick technology! You can't deny that it will influence decisions.

The gamble?
Every vendor except Spartan who was dissatisfied with Jeti's answer, also integrated with OpenTX / Horus. (Full heli and plank and Multirotor support) Jeti is gambling that they're better served by ensuring they do it right first before they open up to other vendors for non heli integration, and once allowed, vendors will come back rather than be content to stay on OpenTX only for their plane integration.

*** Quick Update on this too: SH Brain 2 got integration with Graupner. (I'd never heard about this until today).

Jeti's plane integration to date even has artificial horizon on the TX. So there is some truth and validity to letting them do it "right" first.

[HelisRock]

Originally Posted by gunny_jeeves

Company line: As I understand it...
Jeti Assist receivers are coming and jury is out as to whether they might be capable as Multirotor FC and plane FC. (So imagine a RX capable of full integration, and multi, plane SAFE, plus 3D assistance, plus all benefits of a 3axis gyro. With or without accelerometers.) they want to fully release that first.

Makes sense as Jeti is mostly 40% ers and Turbines. Heli growth was thanks to BK and integration.

My opinion?
Integration is absolutely a game changer. Sick technology! You can't deny that it will influence decisions.

The gamble?
Every vendor except Spartan who was dissatisfied with Jeti's answer, also integrated with OpenTX / Horus. (Full heli and plank and Multirotor support) Jeti is gambling that they're better served by ensuring they do it right first before they open up to other vendors for non heli integration, and once allowed, vendors will come back rather than be content to stay on OpenTX only for their plane integration.

*** Quick Update on this too: SH Brain 2 got integration with Graupner. (I'd never heard about this until today).

Jeti's plane integration to date even has artificial horizon on the TX. So there is some truth and validity to letting them do it "right" first.

Fascinating chess game. So, do I understand correctly, heli fbl integration is unaffected by all this jockeying? We're a bit player so we get integration but don't factor into the game?

I agree, integration is a real game changer, along with telemetry. I love Futaba, but we're falling further and further behind, so I'm looking at Jeti and FrSky.

[Rogue22]

With Jeti Assist, "artificial horizon", and full integration, wouldn't it be great to integrate with an FPV headset like Fat Shark? Things have come a long way over the last 10 years in the RC helicopter world. I can't even imagine what the next 10 years has in store.

Steve


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[crsorrell0653]

Originally Posted by Rogue22

With Jeti Assist, "artificial horizon", and full integration, wouldn't it be great to integrate with an FPV headset like Fat Shark? Things have come a long way over the last 10 years in the RC helicopter world. I can't even imagine what the next 10 years has in store.

Steve


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Can it just not be as simple as Jeti developing a satellite receiver to plug into your existing fbl units. Jeti would be better off by selling a lot more transmitters. I run Ikon and Spektrum, but don't want to change all the electronics just to use a Jeti Transmitter.

[TeroS]

Originally Posted by crsorrell0653

Can it just not be as simple as Jeti developing a satellite receiver to plug into your existing fbl units. Jeti would be better off by selling a lot more transmitters. I run Ikon and Spektrum, but don't want to change all the electronics just to use a Jeti Transmitter.

Uuh, what? you just described a normal setup with any receiver and any fbl, and Jeti (as any other brand too) does that. In europe we have RSat2 and REX3 to that, in US you have R3SW and soon REX3 if I'm not mistaking. Of course any other receiver fits too, for example a REX6 is not much bigger than RSat2 or REX3.

The satellite-way as Spektrum is using is not a way to go in my opinion, way too much issues with those tiny contacts. (Yes, I have been using them, i used to have DX8 and DX9)

I think you meant to write something else?

[crsorrell0653]

Are we talking at cross purposed here, as I have found no information to suggest that I can use say an Ikon 2 receiver, a Jeti satellite and a Jeti transmitter, if so, please send me the link. From my reading Jeti is Jeti. Are you suggesting a Jeti reciever and say a Spektrum satellite to pair up to my DX9. I don't wish to do that, but just the opposite. Sorry for the confusion and my lack of understanding.

[Thunder Fighter]

Ok, so no, you don't have to replace the majority of your electronics, and yes Jeti is Jeti so you can't mix and match.

The Ikon2 isn't a receiver, it is a FBL unit and currently you use Spektrum satellites as the receivers. With the Jeti as the transmitter you replace the Spektrum satellites with a single Jeti Rx. It already has dual diversity so is a full range solution.

As the Rx and FBL support single wire connections (you can use several different protocols to connect them) you only need one of the smaller Rx's like the RSat2, R3 or REX3, which have 2 or 4 plugs on them, not the full size receivers. These smaller Jeti Receivers are often called satellite Receivers although they are really full Receivers with limited plug connection to them, the beauty with the Jeti is you can assign different functions to the different plugs on the receiver. The newer REX3 is the most flexible with remapping the plugs and so I would normally recommend getting those if you are starting off.

Hope that helps.

//Dennis.

[crsorrell0653]

Thanks, I tried getting that info from Jeti, but they just fobbed me off. I do struggle a bit with the electronic side of this hobby.

[crsorrell0653]

Am just on the point of ordering a DS14 which comes with an REX3 receiver. Now, talking to the agent it seems no trouble with integrating to the Ikon with just one lead, but he wasn't sure if it could be paired to the AR7210bx, which is a combined receiver and fbl unit. Any clues.

[Shogun71]

Improbable that you could get that to work.

Best thing since sliced bred is a jeti receiver single wire to a Brain2 unit....

Integration and receiver could not get any simpler!!!

[Thunder Fighter]

Yes, now I understand the earlier confusion, you have one of the few FBL units that has an Rx built into it. This is definitely an issue as I don't believe it has the ability to bypass the built in unit and couple in the Jeti Rx, so I am sorry but my earlier comments about not having to replace the FBL do not apply with this unit.

//Dennis.

[AndrewJHawes]

If you are one of the few who have organised a module bay for your Jeti, through a third party, or created one yourself, then the Jeti to Spektrum based FBL is possible! This, however, does not apply to most people.
The REX3 receiver has been something I have been offering in Australia to sweeten the deal for those changing from another manufacturer. This is not the normal delivery mode for the DS-14.

[Necroscope]

Originally Posted by crsorrell0653

Am just on the point of ordering a DS14 which comes with an REX3 receiver. Now, talking to the agent it seems no trouble with integrating to the Ikon with just one lead, but he wasn't sure if it could be paired to the AR7210bx, which is a combined receiver and fbl unit. Any clues.

The Brain2/Ikon2 with REX3 is very easy, I have that exact setup on 2 of my helis and another with a Spirit Pro which is just as easy.