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matrix1171 · 10-15-2007, 05:35 AM

try this

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=46725

Angelos · 10-15-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothman

Is it possible to do a flybarless setup with your gyros? Like CSM 720 + CycLock.

It is possible and will certainly do it. However, CSM have worked out some different tuning parameters for their 720 gyro which are more suitable for flybarless. I did not have to do this yet but will get done soon. However, I am not a big fan of this solution with multiple boxes and untidy wiring. I much prefer a single box fully integrated system.

-Angelos

rothman · 10-15-2007, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelos

I much prefer a single box fully integrated system.

-Angelos

And that is your next product?

Pinecone · 10-15-2007, 06:17 PM

Funny when a 401 is considered an El Cheapo.

Never said the gyro wasn't good, it is just that for those of us flying smaller helis, the price is a barrier.

BigVanVader · 10-15-2007, 08:47 PM

I had the chance to fly HC's Phazor 600 with the Spartan DS760 gyro this last weekend....it holds as good as anything I have flown and thats pretty much all of them

You have a winner on your hands Angelos

mporlier · 10-17-2007, 05:05 PM

Hi Bob,

I know you are super busy. Hope this week-end birthday party went well. When are you coming up with the rest of the DS760 setup?

Marc

Finless · 10-17-2007, 06:33 PM

The rest? You mean the PC software setup?

I am waiting for Angelos to release the next version before shooting that video. He said it shouldn't be too long.

Bob

scottc · 10-19-2007, 03:50 PM

any update as to when the Spartan ds650 is coming out.

Angelos · 10-19-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottc

any update as to when the Spartan ds650 is coming out.

The ds650 labels just arrived. Should have some ready in 1-2 weeks. PM me if you want to reserve one. There are plenty of ds760's in stock.

BarnOwl · 10-19-2007, 05:08 PM

So how does it fly compared to 611 and 6100 systems? Did you get to fly it properly yet Bob?

Finless · 10-20-2007, 11:39 AM

Oh yes it flew fine right out of the shoot! I had to drop the gain about 4 clicks on the Trex600 nitro as in a hard turn I was getting a little wag...

I love the feel of this gyro. In my opinion better than the logictech 6100 for sure! As for the 611 I just am not that good a pilot that I cant tell the difference but based on my skill level it's every bit as good in it's holding power. Another hard core pilot will have to give you thier opinion comparing it to a 611. I hear that a Szabo is trying one now... Maybe we will hear something from them soon.

In the end what I truely like is it's size and ease of setup and also the ability to update the software! To me it is a step up in gyro technology.

I now want to try the 650 on a 450 sized heli... I didnt really like the 2100 as it just felt odd on the sticks but the 650 could be a 401 killer on a 450!

Bob

tonyb · 10-20-2007, 04:48 PM

Does anyone know if the DS760 will work with the 6100T tail servo?

Thanks

mporlier · 10-20-2007, 05:05 PM

My Ds760 is just around the corner, I can see it right now flying over the Atlantic ocean! There it is! I should get it Monday or Thursday at the latest. I am certain I will be a happy flyer with this baby.

Angelos · 10-20-2007, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyb

Does anyone know if the DS760 will work with the 6100T tail servo?

Thanks

Yes the 6100G works on the same setting as Futaba 9251/6.

-Angelos

Rogan · 10-20-2007, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelos

Pinecone,
The best part of all... when you are ready for the extra stuff for a small fee you can get the upgrade firmware and convert the ds650 to ds760! We'll even send you a red ds760 label to replace the yellow one of the ds650.

-Angelos

I think that's a great idea, but it has some drawbacks. If the hardware is the same, it's likely that someone's going to work out how to hack a 650 into a 760. This happens a lot with computer graphics, as mid range cards often use hobbled high-end GPUs to reduce manufacturing overheads.

If someone does end up hacking it, you'll start selling a lot of 650s and maybe not so many 760s. Wouldn't that pose a problem for you guys?

AFAIK it's a good thing, but manufacturer's often tend not to see it that way.

Angelos · 10-21-2007, 04:34 AM

I am not worried about it. To do that you would need to work out how to decipher the firmware updates. If you can manage that, certain men in black will be looking for you wanting to offer you a job for cracking an encryption algorithm that to date remains uncompromised. Frankly if this ever happens I wouldn’t worry about someone converting ds650s to ds760s but about making his own gyros using my firmware.

-Angelos

MarkWebber · 10-21-2007, 07:58 AM

Bob,

You're gonna love it on a 450 size. Kyle Stacy tried one this weekend at Ihobby on a Gaui 200. Saved weight over the 401 and seemed to work real well for him.

They shot some video and I imaging it'll be up on RR after they get back in the Gaui forum

Rogan · 10-21-2007, 03:07 PM

What's the price going to be on the 650?

Sorry if I missed it.

mporlier · 10-22-2007, 08:00 AM

I just received my Ds760. Wow this thing is small, cant wait to try it out. Thank you Angelo for the great service.

Marc

IcemanCharlie · 10-24-2007, 01:15 PM

FINLESS...

PLZZZZZ some update and info :-)

I'm thinking about buying one for my T-Rex 600 N.

Looooooooooking fwd to see some vid's and your comments :-)

10-15-2007, 06:17 PM	#44 (permalink)
Pinecone Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	Funny when a 401 is considered an El Cheapo. Never said the gyro wasn't good, it is just that for those of us flying smaller helis, the price is a barrier. __________________ Terry AMA#47402, IRCHA # 3395 Blade CP "Pro", Trex 450SE, PiccoZ, Quick of Japan EP8v2 EX, Hurricane 550, Hurricane 200, JR Vibe 50, Blade mCX, Bergen Intrepid Gasser, Pantera 50, Blade mSR, Novus CP

10-15-2007, 08:47 PM	#45 (permalink)
BigVanVader Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004	I had the chance to fly HC's Phazor 600 with the Spartan DS760 gyro this last weekend....it holds as good as anything I have flown and thats pretty much all of them You have a winner on your hands Angelos __________________ Vance Hill My HF Map location

10-17-2007, 05:05 PM	#46 (permalink)
mporlier Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2006	Hi Bob, I know you are super busy. Hope this week-end birthday party went well. When are you coming up with the rest of the DS760 setup? Marc __________________ My HF Map location T-Rex600N Pro X9303/R921 Spartan Ds760 Gyro (love it) [

10-17-2007, 06:33 PM	#47 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	The rest? You mean the PC software setup? I am waiting for Angelos to release the next version before shooting that video. He said it shouldn't be too long. Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

10-19-2007, 05:08 PM	#50 (permalink)
BarnOwl Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	So how does it fly compared to 611 and 6100 systems? Did you get to fly it properly yet Bob? __________________ Jeroen - Just fly it!

10-15-2007, 05:35 AM	#41 (permalink)
matrix1171 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2006	try this https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=46725

10-19-2007, 03:50 PM	#48 (permalink)
scottc Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2004	any update as to when the Spartan ds650 is coming out.

10-20-2007, 11:39 AM	#51 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	Oh yes it flew fine right out of the shoot! I had to drop the gain about 4 clicks on the Trex600 nitro as in a hard turn I was getting a little wag... I love the feel of this gyro. In my opinion better than the logictech 6100 for sure! As for the 611 I just am not that good a pilot that I cant tell the difference but based on my skill level it's every bit as good in it's holding power. Another hard core pilot will have to give you thier opinion comparing it to a 611. I hear that a Szabo is trying one now... Maybe we will hear something from them soon. In the end what I truely like is it's size and ease of setup and also the ability to update the software! To me it is a step up in gyro technology. I now want to try the 650 on a 450 sized heli... I didnt really like the 2100 as it just felt odd on the sticks but the 650 could be a 401 killer on a 450! Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

10-20-2007, 04:48 PM	#52 (permalink)
tonyb Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	Does anyone know if the DS760 will work with the 6100T tail servo? Thanks

10-20-2007, 05:05 PM	#53 (permalink)
mporlier Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2006	My Ds760 is just around the corner, I can see it right now flying over the Atlantic ocean! There it is! I should get it Monday or Thursday at the latest. I am certain I will be a happy flyer with this baby. __________________ My HF Map location T-Rex600N Pro X9303/R921 Spartan Ds760 Gyro (love it) [

10-21-2007, 04:34 AM	#56 (permalink)
Angelos Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2005	I am not worried about it. To do that you would need to work out how to decipher the firmware updates. If you can manage that, certain men in black will be looking for you wanting to offer you a job for cracking an encryption algorithm that to date remains uncompromised. Frankly if this ever happens I wouldn’t worry about someone converting ds650s to ds760s but about making his own gyros using my firmware. -Angelos __________________ SPARTANRC - R&D

10-21-2007, 07:58 AM	#57 (permalink)
MarkWebber Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2006	Bob, You're gonna love it on a 450 size. Kyle Stacy tried one this weekend at Ihobby on a Gaui 200. Saved weight over the 401 and seemed to work real well for him. They shot some video and I imaging it'll be up on RR after they get back in the Gaui forum __________________ Mark Webber wai-rc.com

10-21-2007, 03:07 PM	#58 (permalink)
Rogan Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	What's the price going to be on the 650? Sorry if I missed it. __________________ The above text is not intended to cause offense, unless implicitly stated.

10-22-2007, 08:00 AM	#59 (permalink)
mporlier Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2006	I just received my Ds760. Wow this thing is small, cant wait to try it out. Thank you Angelo for the great service. Marc __________________ My HF Map location T-Rex600N Pro X9303/R921 Spartan Ds760 Gyro (love it) [

10-24-2007, 01:15 PM	#60 (permalink)
IcemanCharlie Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	FINLESS... PLZZZZZ some update and info :-) I'm thinking about buying one for my T-Rex 600 N. Looooooooooking fwd to see some vid's and your comments :-)

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