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satchy · 10-25-2015, 11:45 PM

After alot of experimenting with grumpyoldman we have come up with the solution to this problem

1. Yes it is vibration not the neuron
2. Seems to be mostly when mounted on the back of the tailcase especially torque tube belt seems less effected
3.after trying alot of different tapes eg my usual 3m or 3m gel red 1 or 2 layers make no difference
4.we have found some of this tape

5. Going back to nitro days with 1 layer of this and a aluminum plate and 1 more layer seems to work nicely

And yes i hot glue as ive had them come out before anyone asks

This has worked on 2 trex 500 pros and it has fixed both of them

Videos to come

Thomas you owe us

satchy · 10-25-2015, 11:46 PM

Post saved for videos

Video one

Watch "Neuron rescue problem" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/floGui4GAQo

Video two

Watch "Neuron on the bench" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/iD-JD6UyoNo

Video three

Watch "Neuron fixed" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/QawTmBk4wio

NEW VIDEO explaining why the servos don't go up all together

Watch "Neuron rescue servos wonky is normal if not level" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/mxUEvpj-da0

If anyone wants the tape and plate sent to them ready to go pm me but you're looking at $40 otherwise not worth my time thanks

Vinger · 10-26-2015, 06:47 AM

Why does it still go wonky on the bench with no motor running? Why did a known good unit work on diffirent helicopters, but a known defective unit does not work on the same helicopters? All these questions are still not answered and a metal plate and tape will not fix any of these questions we have..

satchy · 10-26-2015, 07:10 AM

^^^^^^ end user if not get another unit if it still happens you don't know how to use the gyro maybe try another gyro brand or try planks as i see that's why you purchased it in the first place.....

satchy · 10-26-2015, 07:13 AM

Also if it goes (wonky) on the bench check your servos on a servo tester what servos are you running ?

grumpyoldman · 10-26-2015, 07:40 AM

Get some video up, we may be able to help, if indeed it is a defective unit or units then send them back !!

Steve

Vinger · 10-26-2015, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satchy

^^^^^^ end user if not get another unit if it still happens you don't know how to use the gyro maybe try another gyro brand or try planks as i see that's why you purchased it in the first place.....

Take exception into blaming me and stating that I do not know how to use a gyro!! Been in this hobby since childhood and helicopters since 2007.....

satchy · 10-27-2015, 02:42 AM

Omg you should change your name to whinger it would make more sense !! I wasn't having a go at you im trying to help you ...
It just annoys me how people quickly dis the product and not actually set them up correctly
Like i said if you believe it's faulty get a 2nd and try that if they both do the same thing it must be something in your setup or hardware related mate

And like Steve said maybe a video or two so we can see what's happening

kayakboy69 · 10-27-2015, 09:53 AM

Sweet ... one of the other brands have the same vib issue whe.n in SL they use a Milton Mod wich is Zeal thick gyro tape and a strap or zip tie ...
Sounds like you have a GOM mod !

AndreyI · 10-27-2015, 11:17 PM

This decision says about the imperfection of the alignment algorithm

If you cannot write the log of the vibrations, we may have the opportunity to show a level of vibrations via the existing LEDs?

DannyvG · 10-27-2015, 11:35 PM

Andreyl, isnt there another location possible to install the neuron or isn't it on the tailcase with a 450l? My gaui is probably far from vibration free but self level works perfect with the unit on the bottom plate.

Vinger · 10-28-2015, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satchy

Omg you should change your name to whinger it would make more sense !! I wasn't having a go at you im trying to help you ...
It just annoys me how people quickly dis the product and not actually set them up correctly
Like i said if you believe it's faulty get a 2nd and try that if they both do the same thing it must be something in your setup or hardware related mate

And like Steve said maybe a video or two so we can see what's happening

Tried THREE units, two does not rescue upright and ONE DOES..... Swopped between helis etc etc, go read all my posts in the rescue problem thread. No need to video anything as it was all explained over and over in the other thread.

Name calling not the HF motto.......

LarsBraun · 10-29-2015, 01:23 AM

One works fine? The others not? Send them back. Where is the problem? Why whining so long?
Sounds strange, but possible...

Tele repair does not work in real.

satchy · 10-29-2015, 05:25 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one

I didn't name call you i was trying to help you sitting there saying videos are no good really doesn't help ....

I did read all your posts and i agree with Lars

AndreyI · 10-29-2015, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyvG

Andreyl, isnt there another location possible to install the neuron or isn't it on the tailcase with a 450l? My gaui is probably far from vibration free but self level works perfect with the unit on the bottom plate.

At 450L neuron it is convenient to put only on the tail. This is due to the located connectors.
If someone have done anything different, please show photo.

FrankFuss · 10-29-2015, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreyI

At 450L neuron it is convenient to put only on the tail. This is due to the located connectors.
If someone have done anything different, please show photo.

Here is a link to how I installed a Spirit FBL on bottom plate on a Trex 450L. You can do the same thing with the Neuron, which has the same connector positioning as the Spirit.

https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...69&postcount=3

Not that this puts the FBL controller directly under the main shaft, which is probably the best location to avoid vibration problems.

AndreyI · 10-29-2015, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankFuss

Here is a link to how I installed a Spirit FBL on bottom plate on a Trex 450L. You can do the same thing with the Neuron, which has the same connector positioning as the Spirit.

Thank you!
I will try to put the same.

FrankFuss · 10-29-2015, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreyI

Thank you!
I will try to put the same.

Replace the button head cap screws with standard cap screws. The button head cap screws take a smaller driver and can be hard to get out.

TimmBerlin · 10-31-2015, 10:28 AM

Hi, I just setup my goblin 380. Tried the rescue function on the bench. The swash plate goes to forward position, when activated. Does this make sense. Thank you for your support.

Goblin 380 Neuron Test Rescue Function (0 min 28 sec)

satchy · 11-01-2015, 05:51 AM

Timm if you lift the goblin at front alittle do they all go up together ???

If so that's how it's supposed to work

10-25-2015, 11:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
satchy Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2008	*RESCUE MODE fixed * look inside After alot of experimenting with grumpyoldman we have come up with the solution to this problem 1. Yes it is vibration not the neuron 2. Seems to be mostly when mounted on the back of the tailcase especially torque tube belt seems less effected 3.after trying alot of different tapes eg my usual 3m or 3m gel red 1 or 2 layers make no difference 4.we have found some of this tape 5. Going back to nitro days with 1 layer of this and a aluminum plate and 1 more layer seems to work nicely And yes i hot glue as ive had them come out before anyone asks This has worked on 2 trex 500 pros and it has fixed both of them Videos to come Thomas you owe us __________________ "So What is 3D Flying" Definition:** 3D as applied to current rc helicopter flying is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place.

10-25-2015, 11:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
satchy Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2008	Post saved for videos Video one Watch "Neuron rescue problem" on YouTube https://youtu.be/floGui4GAQo Video two Watch "Neuron on the bench" on YouTube https://youtu.be/iD-JD6UyoNo Video three Watch "Neuron fixed" on YouTube https://youtu.be/QawTmBk4wio NEW VIDEO explaining why the servos don't go up all together Watch "Neuron rescue servos wonky is normal if not level" on YouTube https://youtu.be/mxUEvpj-da0 If anyone wants the tape and plate sent to them ready to go pm me but you're looking at $40 otherwise not worth my time thanks __________________ *"So What is 3D Flying"* Definition: 3D as applied to current rc helicopter flying is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place. Last edited by satchy; 11-01-2015 at 06:21 AM..

10-26-2015, 06:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
Vinger Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2007	Why does it still go wonky on the bench with no motor running? Why did a known good unit work on diffirent helicopters, but a known defective unit does not work on the same helicopters? All these questions are still not answered and a metal plate and tape will not fix any of these questions we have.. __________________ Henseleit TDR, TDR2, TDF, TDS, TDSF Kontronik, Scorpion ESC, iChargers, VBar, VControl Old hand at Planks Peter

10-26-2015, 07:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
satchy Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2008	^^^^^^ end user if not get another unit if it still happens you don't know how to use the gyro maybe try another gyro brand or try planks as i see that's why you purchased it in the first place..... __________________ *"So What is 3D Flying"* Definition: 3D as applied to current rc helicopter flying is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place.

10-26-2015, 07:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
satchy Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2008	Also if it goes (wonky) on the bench check your servos on a servo tester what servos are you running ? __________________ *"So What is 3D Flying"* Definition: 3D as applied to current rc helicopter flying is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place.

10-26-2015, 07:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
grumpyoldman Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	Get some video up, we may be able to help, if indeed it is a defective unit or units then send them back !! Steve __________________ Trex 500 Pro Neuron Trex 500 Pro Vbar Futaba

10-27-2015, 02:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
satchy Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2008	Omg you should change your name to whinger it would make more sense !! I wasn't having a go at you im trying to help you ... It just annoys me how people quickly dis the product and not actually set them up correctly Like i said if you believe it's faulty get a 2nd and try that if they both do the same thing it must be something in your setup or hardware related mate And like Steve said maybe a video or two so we can see what's happening __________________ *"So What is 3D Flying"* Definition: 3D as applied to current rc helicopter flying is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place.

10-27-2015, 09:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
kayakboy69 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2010	Sweet ... one of the other brands have the same vib issue whe.n in SL they use a Milton Mod wich is Zeal thick gyro tape and a strap or zip tie ... Sounds like you have a GOM mod !

10-27-2015, 11:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
AndreyI Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2015	This decision says about the imperfection of the alignment algorithm If you cannot write the log of the vibrations, we may have the opportunity to show a level of vibrations via the existing LEDs?

10-27-2015, 11:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
DannyvG Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2010	Andreyl, isnt there another location possible to install the neuron or isn't it on the tailcase with a 450l? My gaui is probably far from vibration free but self level works perfect with the unit on the bottom plate. __________________ GAUI X5 with Eznov Neuron and T10J

10-29-2015, 01:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
LarsBraun Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2010	One works fine? The others not? Send them back. Where is the problem? Why whining so long? Sounds strange, but possible... Tele repair does not work in real.

10-29-2015, 05:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
satchy Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2008	I'm glad I'm not the only one I didn't name call you i was trying to help you sitting there saying videos are no good really doesn't help .... I did read all your posts and i agree with Lars __________________ *"So What is 3D Flying"* Definition: 3D as applied to current rc helicopter flying is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place.

11-01-2015, 05:51 AM	#20 (permalink)
satchy Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2008	Timm if you lift the goblin at front alittle do they all go up together ??? If so that's how it's supposed to work __________________ *"So What is 3D Flying"* Definition: 3D as applied to current rc helicopter flying is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place.

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