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Old 12-12-2016, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default Converting FB to FBL

So Im converting my 600N to FBL

I have the new main shaft, DFC head and swash installed. I'm using a Bavarian demon for FBL and was going to mount it up front but because the leads are coming out of the top, the canopy doesn't fit.

Is there a different tray i should be using to mount the gyro on so I can fit canopy on.

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Old 12-12-2016, 01:48 PM   #2
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There is a gyro tray that fits on top of the aileron servos. That is where I have my FBL unit and no problem with the canopy.
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Old 12-16-2016, 10:07 AM   #3
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Thabk you. I ended up moving the FBL to the back. I also have too much mechanical gain so I need to work on that.

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Old 12-27-2016, 03:44 AM   #4
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Unfortunately most Align models are not best suited to FBL for some reason or other with quite poor geometry. The indirect bell cranks being one of them. You would of thought they would of been re-engineered to a 1:1 ratio with possibly a new frame design to the move them back a little.
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Old 12-27-2016, 07:19 AM   #5
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Custom Helicopter Parts make such a frame conversion.
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:32 PM   #6
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I got new mixing arms. with inner holes and a friend of mine has the elevator piece I need to match it up I'm thinking that will help out

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Old 12-29-2016, 06:41 AM   #7
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What are the part numbers please?
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Here's the mixing arms

http://www.espritmodel.com/h60206t--...ing-arm-u.aspx

I'll get you the elevator piece shortly

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Old 01-01-2017, 05:40 AM   #9
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My model has these aileron levers
http://www.helipross.com/align-t-rex...-h60027-1.html
Where does your part fit please?
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Mine had those but because I went FBL I had way too much mechanical gain so when I wanted to set 6 degrees to set the geometry I had to go way down in servo throw. This has an inner hole so I can have more servo throw to achieve the same amount of mechanical throw.

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Here's the elevator piece

http://www.espritmodel.com/h70046t--...r-arm-set.aspx

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Old 01-02-2017, 11:30 AM   #12
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Mine had those but because I went FBL I had way too much mechanical gain so when I wanted to set 6 degrees to set the geometry I had to go way down in servo throw. This has an inner hole so I can have more servo throw to achieve the same amount of mechanical throw.

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Yes, yes, but where does it go, can you add a picture please?
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When I get it in I will take a photo. I'm still waiting for them to come in the mail

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Kind of like this



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Your picture shows the standard aileron lever that is an amplifier and that is what I have. I also use the same servo horn setup the same.

Where does the part you linked to fit because the part you linked in post #8 isn't an aileron lever?
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:18 PM   #16
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Ok let me look into it. Is this for the flybarred head?

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Ok yeah I screwed up. Dang it

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So can I just flip the swash around and connect directly to the servo horns?

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I just contacted empire hobby to see what they come up with

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A mod I have seen is to use the two elevator cut outs for the aileron servos and then fashion something to hold the elevator servo at the front.

When done it creates a direct to swash setup.
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