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02-21-2017, 07:57 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Tweaking my 360 Trio
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Finally a great day to fly yesterday. No wind and sunny. I flew non-stop for a couple hours...between my 270 and 360, got about a dozen flights. No mishaps either . Some funnels, lame tic tocs, and hurricanes, and a few inverted circles. Anyway... After a few rebuilds of my 270, it flies like it's riding a rail. Have the KST servos, and 3M tape under the Rx. My 360, which Ms. Claus got me for Christmas, has an issue that I'm a bit stumped on. Swash plate is level along with zero pitch at mid stick (using my carpenter levels). It hovers well and flies around nicely in full stunt. However, when I do my lame tic-tocs, It leans to the right. When I go inverted, it does the same thing (leans to my left during nose-in inverted hover). Thanks for any help. |
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02-21-2017, 01:48 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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These helis, and all helis in fact lean in order to correct the rotor torque and the tail rotor thrust. When it leans is it stationary or drifting? I used to get worried about leaning, but put it down to wind and the heli fighting to maintain its position in the sky. The thing is, if it was leaning and gaining motion in the direction of the lean, you would have a trim issue or something, if it is leaning and going no where, that is normal.
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02-21-2017, 01:57 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Just read this in the 270 forum from Lupo99
1. Adjust the FBL for exact alignment vs. horizon: "If the helicopter is not aligned horizontally as desired with active SAFE® technology, i.e drifts to one side in hovering, the artificial horizon can be readjusted. This is done at Parameter Menu Point A which also serves as servo trim function. If you activate SAFE® technology at Parameter Menu Point A via the transmitter’s SAFE® technology channel, you switch to trimming of the horizon instead of trimming the servos. By moving the aileron or elevator stick the roll and pitch tilt of the horizon can be increased/decreased. Briefly touching the appropriate stick will trim the horizon stepwise by 0.5 degrees to the specific direction. Touching the stick repeatedly or holding it for longer time will trim the horizon by several steps. The Status-LED indicates the trim values: when it lights in blue color both angles are 0 degrees resp. they are in the factory setting. If the Status-LED lights red one or both angles are adjusted slightly. If the Status-LED is purple, then one axis is trimmed by more than 5.0 degrees. When the status LED goes out, one of the two axes is further trimmed than 10.0 degrees, which is the limit for each axis! By moving the rudder stick you can remove the trimm that has been set since entering this menu point. Place the helicopter in horizontal position and you should be able to see the effect of trimming. Note that the helicopter usually is slightly tilted to the side in hovering flight due to the drag of the tail rotor. Therefore as a starting point it is recommended to trim about 5 degrees to the right when using a helicopter with clockwise turning main rotor. Also note that SAFE® technology cannot recognize the absolute position of the helicopter. Depending on wind and environmental conditions it may happen that the helicopter drifts slightly into a certain direction during hovering flight. Also long-lasting vibration or fluctuations in temperature can cause the helicopter not always comply exactly the same attitude. Therefore, only trim in moderate steps and only when the helicopter reproducible drifts to the same direction!" |
02-21-2017, 08:38 PM | #4 (permalink) | |
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When it does roll right while inverted, it does drift, i.e., I have to correct. BrokeDad talks about the RROD, or right roll of death in this thread... https://www.helifreak.com/showthread...highlight=RROD I might try my 3M 411 tape under the Rx. |
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02-22-2017, 02:23 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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Rather annoying, chasing these small issues wastes a lot of time.
At least it as not as serious as my issues. I just got it in the air again yesterday after extracting the Trio from an electric fence on the farm, which broke everything. As soon as I put it in IU1 it nose dived and now have to fix everything again I suspect one of the linkages came off. 6 blades in two days. Also having trouble with the blade grip arms coming loose and slogging out their recess locators. I'm thinking of pinning them in place as they can rotate around the single locating screw provided. |
04-18-2017, 08:02 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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Quick question to the Trio pilots with open AR7210BX FBL: Is it possible to upgrade to the BeastX software version 4.2.0 (or higher) via StudioX?
The BeastX Wiki states the most recent version for the AR7210BX would be 4.1.5 but I doubt that and believe the most recent software version is in line with a usual Microbeast Plus (4.2.1).
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04-18-2017, 12:27 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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At one point I thought I had the same roll problem on my twin blade 360, the heli was leaning a good 15degrees to the right. but it was a stationary hover, which confused me.
But it turned out that even though I could feel NO wind at all, it was just the heli leaning into wind that it could feel. I only figured this out when in desperation I turned it around and it started leaning left lol. I could honestly feel zero wind, but it MUST have been there! The 360 is very light for its power...
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04-18-2017, 03:15 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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I updated mine shortly after I got it last year, from memory Studio x lists the updates available, and you just click on that. Is that not happening??
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04-19-2017, 01:17 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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I consider unlocking my 270 and thus would like to know what I can expect before buying the programming interface - thanks.
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06-26-2017, 07:16 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Put KST's on my 360
The wind was crazy all weekend, so between the honey-do list, I replaced the Spk servos with KST's. Luckily I double check all the servos in hold mode before each flight & found one that was "sticky" or had a binding point...imagine that. Been looking for a reason to do this & I didn't have to tank it to find one.
Had a chance to hover it in the front yard tonight and she seems good to go. Now if the wind would just calm down! Withdrawal here. |
06-26-2017, 07:19 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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It's really ashame that your cyclics now outperform your tail, by far. I have 2 KST minis not being used if you are interested? Makes a heck of an improvement.
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06-26-2017, 07:30 PM | #12 (permalink) | |
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At least it won't take me a whole day now to charge all my batts for 270, 360 and 420. |
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