synergy parts pricing

[Xfreak3D]

i am keen into gettig a synergy either e5 or e7se.. i just wondering how is the parts pricing like ? as i see from the website.. one main gear is $40..its 2.5 times the price of logo700 main gear price..

and i see alot of picture of parts putting 2pcs.. like boom

http://onlyfinehelis.com/helicopter-...-715mm-for-e5s

the pictures is 2pcs.. but is it 1 boom or 2pcs?

thanks

[Dennis P]

Two booms in a package. There are a few things that are pricey like the main gears. Most parts are on par with other brands. Each company has the odd part that is expensive and there is normally a reason like the machined maingear that Synergy runs.

[Xfreak3D]

oh okay... is the main gear always damaged in a crash ?

[Steve Graham]

When the picture shows two pieces you will get two pieces in my experience.

Only you can judge whether the parts are too expensive or not. I recommend downloading the manual for the kit you are interested in. Go through it noting the part numbers you think you might be replacing from time to time. Then go to the Synergy store and put the numbers in the search box to see the prices.

I fly an E7-SE and an N7. I probably have enough parts to virtually rebuild either so yes over time I've invested quite a bit in parts. For me, the Synergies have been well worth it.

[Only Fine Helis]

Synergy's Delrin machined main gear is in a totally different league from a traditional injection molded gear. It will hold up much better and you will rarely have an issue with it. Most other companies use a molded gear that is much less expensive to manufacture.

Other parts are pretty much on par with other manufacturers.

[Rodney Kirstine]

I have had some really really heavy crashes and the only time I can remember breaking a main gear was when I was flying in below freezing weather and crashed. I have never stripped any teeth on one.

[Xfreak3D]

is it better to wait for the synergy 516 or just use the e5 for a 550size heli ?

as read around here people saying the e5 is on the heavy side.. thats why 516 is here .. strech into 550

[Steve Graham]

It really depends on what you want to do with it. The E5 is an incredibly capable machine that can be run on a variety of blade lengths and cell counts all the way up to 700. As a stock 550 size heli on 6S it will hit your batteries pretty hard due to weight and blade loading. Most 550's will do this for that matter. The 516 was designed at least in part, someone correct me if I'm wrong, as an optimal 6S machine. It will be lighter than the E5 but not sure how much?

[Xfreak3D]

yea.. i had the 570goblin..it was hard for the lipos in each landing.. guess 516 streched would be better choice

[Commodore8888]

Same answers really. Machined delrin costs more, and if designed right is reasonably strong (and slick). The stuff is pretty tough, so the angry feels you get buying a 40$ gear are few and far between.

It helps if you have an ESC that shuts down properly if overloaded in a crash, but I watched a guy go straight in power on, at about 50mph. No gear damage.

Booms/Supports come in pairs. Control rods and torque tubes are single packed.

[jhamel]

Originally Posted by Xfreak3D

...i had the 570goblin..it was hard for the lipos...

The Goblin 570 airframe is lighter than the E5 airframe, but even with the same 556/96 blades, the G570 is much harder on the 6S pack than the E5. My guess is that the E5 mechanics must be more efficient than the G570.

About the Synergy 516 vs E5, maybe someone can comment how well the performance of the cyclic mini servos of the 516 compare to the full size cyclic servos of the E5, especially when stretching the 516 to swing 556 blades.

[Xfreak3D]

i guess shud handle well.. the diabolo550 is using mini servo too..
x4ii streched to 520mm is using mini servo too..

[Only Fine Helis]

Matt has thoroughly tested the 516 with the mini's and there is no issue at all. Just buy it and fly it.

[tonys-heli]

Originally Posted by Only Fine Helis

Matt has thoroughly tested the 516 with the mini's and there is no issue at all. Just buy it and fly it.

you have to have it, so we can buy it and fly it ...

[Rodney Kirstine]

If you look at the torque specs of the newer HV mini servos, their torque rating at 8.0V is higher than the full-size servos at 4.8V that I was using in my E7 when I first got it.

http://www.mksservosusa.com/product....5&cat=5&page=1
https://servodatabase.com/servo/futaba/bls451

They should handle 556 blades just fine.

[tonys-heli]

I haven't been this excited about a new heli in a while.. I cant freakin wait..

[rrcherry]

Originally Posted by curmudgeon

The Goblin 570 airframe is lighter than the E5 airframe, but even with the same 556/96 blades, the G570 is much harder on the 6S pack than the E5. My guess is that the E5 mechanics must be more efficient than the G570.

About the Synergy 516 vs E5, maybe someone can comment how well the performance of the cyclic mini servos of the 516 compare to the full size cyclic servos of the E5, especially when stretching the 516 to swing 556 blades.

Mini servos have changed quite a bit over the years. We used to be stuck with 30-60 oz of torque, sufficient for 425mm blades. Today, the mks have 130oz. I currently run bls255 in my E7 and they only have 155oz of torque. 130 will be plenty for 556mm. The Diabolo 550 guys mostly run the mks mini servos as well.

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[Rob Cherry]

Originally Posted by Xfreak3D

oh okay... is the main gear always damaged in a crash ?

Main gears aren't typically blown away in a crash. Everyone crashes differently, so your mileage may vary...however, I have a lot of extra main gears from many rekits over the years. They tend to last a while.

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[Rob Cherry]

Originally Posted by Steve Graham

It really depends on what you want to do with it. The E5 is an incredibly capable machine that can be run on a variety of blade lengths and cell counts all the way up to 700. As a stock 550 size heli on 6S it will hit your batteries pretty hard due to weight and blade loading. Most 550's will do this for that matter. The 516 was designed at least in part, someone correct me if I'm wrong, as an optimal 6S machine. It will be lighter than the E5 but not sure how much?

It's lighter by design. However, the 516 is primarily targeting the 500 class, so we haven't even begun testing 556 setups yet. We're focusing on 516mm until we're clear of public release to ensure its rock solid as intended. The ultimate goal was to have an amazing 516mm heli.

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[Xfreak3D]

hi rob.. is there any ways synergy going to let the E5 some diet ? as i see many people saying its kinda heavy bird.. there is only TT ver avail for E5?