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Old 09-29-2009, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Review - KBDD 450 Paddles

Finally got a chance to try these last weekend. Everyone was raving about them at IRCHA and the Lexington Funfly.
OMG.... You want FAST? These are the fastest paddles I have tried on a 450 yet! Be prepared to put in some expo to be able to be smooth around center stick! Or don't and stick bang the hell out of it!

Get ready to be PADDLED!

Anyway here is a review video I did showing how fast they are.
In the video you can even hear Kevin begging to try them
Mikey liked them too

VIDEO -> Review of KB Dream Design 450 Paddles (73 Megs)

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Old 09-29-2009, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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KBDD is great! I haven't tried the paddles...but run their tailblades on all my machines!!

Thanks Bob!
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+1

Been using them for a little over a year now (at least 200 flights) and they're awesome! Very fast, super clean, and they don't seem to cause too much pitchiness in FFF.

A+ in my book!

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Old 09-29-2009, 08:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How could you have been using them for a year? They just came out at IRCHA?

We talking about the same thing?

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Old 09-29-2009, 09:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Im sure before they even came out they were in peoples hands...... prototypin' as you know.
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I see that there are two different holes for tuning cyclic. Which hole are you guys using for more stability in fff?
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The front holes are for more stability, but I have never used them.

There is no tendency to pitch up or down in forward flight, even with the rear holes.


I have been flying these new 450 paddles for a few weeks now and I love them-very stable yet extremely responsive.
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yeah... you can feel the 'chemistry' for sure, lol!

Bob, glad you guys like em. They sure are the best alternative to light, expensive carbon paddles. I think I was one of the ones who mentioned the needed expo to you (at Lexington). The speed and response is the first thing everyone will notice. It is especially great that they also track well in forward flight! I like to mix fast and large with tight and snappy.

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Old 09-29-2009, 10:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Default D'Oh!

my bad.

I was thinking of Gorilla paddles and KBDD tails.... DUH!

Sorry. Brainfart.

I have the KBDD paddles on my Pantera, though, and if those are any indication of how they are for a 450, I'm sure they're nothing short of outstanding! Sorry 'bout the mix-up....

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Old 09-29-2009, 10:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i bought my neon green ones a short time ago as well. pretty quick from readyheli to australia

those with the carbon blades + kbdd paddles and tail blades on my dragonus = fun !!!
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have the Flo Yellow paddles and tails on my T450 and MY GAWD this thing flips and rolls quick. Fastest thing I have in my fleet right now. I too needed to add expo to smooth things out for hovering and FF. After flying this thing, I started searching for ways to speed up my T250 too.. HURRY UP WITH THOSE PADDLES PLEASE!!! LOL...
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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So front hole, how much difference speed/response "approx" between front and rear hole on these paddles folks? Are we talking night and day or....?
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Nice video Bob! Could you tell me how much degrees of cyclic and collective you have and the amount of expo you dailed in to get it flying right? I know this all comes down to personal preference, but I'm just curious.
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Mr Bob, are you gonna test the trex 500 paddles?
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Shawn, that's a good question... I have not even tried it... probably some other testers for KBDD have, but I bet they quickly went back to the leading hole. (or maybe there is not a big difference) I think even you would not care, as the front hole flies nice and fast!

Yes, it would be interesting to know Bob's pitch ranges. I have to check mine again... I believe 14 and 10 with 25% expo. I didn't think my flips were quite as fast as Bob's; I should check it out again...
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Front hole! I did not like the rear hole myself as it was more pitchy in forward flight.

Yes I will test the 500 paddles too.

As far as my pitch settings. Sorry I never measured how much pitch but I maxed out my swash settings (even before testing the paddles). If you built your Pro with Align servos and where they say the balls are then you should get the same amount of cyclic pitch asw I have. My swash on my X9303 is set to Ail = 70, Elv = 70, pitch = 55.
With the swash menu on my X9303 set this way I just barely bind in the corners of cyclic when at full negative pitch. It does not bind in a corner at center stick.

For Expo I am running 40 on ail and elv and prior to putting these paddles on I was running 20.

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I have flown theKBDD 500 paddles on the Atom 500.

It takes a machine that is already fast and makes it screaming fast, but more stable than the stock paddles.
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If your wondering what the "We have chemistry here" joke thing is all about... Watch this and it might make sense

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...chemistry1.wmv

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ROTFLMAO!
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LOL.

and as we say in Norway.

Bønda på Hamar lik fitte om det sitt på gris'll itte!
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