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Old 07-31-2009, 09:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I think I know what you meant, but just in case...

It's low end only on price!!

Also, just because it is not carbon fiber, doesn't mean it is low end! Carbon fiber is not necessary better!!! Certainly not in this case!!

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Old 08-04-2009, 09:32 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Default Tail Pinion Bearings

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I was watching your build video on the pantera frame assembly part 1 and wanted to inform you on something I spoke about with John Beach. Apparently there is some confusion on how the tail pinion bearings should be orientated. I believe John plans to make corrections on this in the next manual update. The bottom bearing block #4 should be reversed then add one M3 washer with one M3x6 Button Head Bolt to the bottom of the shaft. I have done this on my build and it goes together perfectly. It makes sense seeing the shaft is tapped for it anyway. It holds the bearings & shaft in place mechanically without relying on locktite. As well a bit of green locktite is always good insurance to minimize spinout on the shaft.

PS, I really enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from them...Great Job
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Hmmm OK the manual talked about 2 ways to install that and flipping that one block over. Is this the same thing your talking about?

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Old 08-05-2009, 10:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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No what I am recommending is not in the manual at all. The manual suggest flipping the top bearing for additional clearance for the servo. I didn't have any clearance problems. The top bearing should stay as shown and flip the bottom bearing. Basically the open side of each bearing blocks face out towards the shaft ends. This way the bearings will be retained and can't move inward. Here are a couple pictures that may help explain.
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After watching the build videos for the Pantera I toyed with the idea it was a cheap way of trying Nitro but not at the expence of quality. Today I decided why not, it will not break the bank but where have Audacity gone. No more adverts, their web site cannot be reached????? In Australia the only advertising I see is for a Twister Pantera 50 due for delivery "sometime". Details not available. Has the bubble burst????
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:01 PM   #26 (permalink)
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After watching the build videos for the Pantera I toyed with the idea it was a cheap way of trying Nitro but not at the expence of quality. Today I decided why not, it will not break the bank but where have Audacity gone. No more adverts, their web site cannot be reached????? In Australia the only advertising I see is for a Twister Pantera 50 due for delivery "sometime". Details not available. Has the bubble burst????

http://www.genesishobby.com/Products...1/Default.aspx


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Old 08-12-2009, 06:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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bob we need to see Ely Q vision 50 bulid videos.
I would like to see this build too, but i wont say that here or it might look like a hijack. O no Sorry
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I was looking for Audacity not Genesis. Cheers. Checking on supply now.

Now I find they are on holiday but never mind I have found an Australian dealer. Obviously with the Oz $ they are a bit more expensive but still a good deal and I can pick one up complete with an OS 50 motor for $aus595 and all I have to supply is Rx, servos amd gyro all of which I have knocking around the workshop. Looks like I am joining the Pantera club.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:21 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I was looking for Audacity not Genesis. Cheers. Checking on supply now.

Now I find they are on holiday but never mind I have found an Australian dealer. Obviously with the Oz $ they are a bit more expensive but still a good deal and I can pick one up complete with an OS 50 motor for $aus595 and all I have to supply is Rx, servos amd gyro all of which I have knocking around the workshop. Looks like I am joining the Pantera club.
Roger that sorry. glad you found what you were looking for.
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:20 AM   #30 (permalink)
 

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Been watching the build and then nothing for a while from Bob.Is all ok?
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yea... going to start back up again. IRCHA, etc stopped the build.....

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Old 08-20-2009, 02:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Eagerly and impatiently waiting..................

These vids are top notch, Bob.
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:00 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Bob,

Page 12 of the manual has a tip about using adhesive for the bearing to bearing blocks to secure them. It's at the top of the page.
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John, Yes I know that and I mentioned it in the following video segment after that one

John should I recommend the bottom bearing flip with the screw in the shaft as noted above? Looks like a good idea to me?

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Old 08-22-2009, 01:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Good question Finless! I spoke with John on the phone this morning and he is looking into the bearing setup mod. I told him about the pics and that it looked and sounded like a reasonable and valuable mod. He was going to look at the pics and give us a post on what he thought about it. I was curious because I'm about to start my build and noticed the mod on here and thought...."hmmm, I wonder if John would recommend this?"..... Hopefully, he'll get back with us pretty soon on what he thinks. I'm holding my build until I hear his input, but it sure looks like it would work well. BTW....enjoying the vids and just in time to start building #1 of the Pantera twins. Thanks a bunch for your hard work in helping us all out on a proper build. Cheers.
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Yes, Bob, please mention the tail drive shaft is now drilled and tapped one the bottom side now. FWIW, previously, a drop of threadlocker secured the bearing to the shaft but enough folks skipped over this that we decided to use the new method. It's especially easy since we can perform this step while we're already manipulating that shaftand thus, it doesn't add appreciably to our unit cost. You've probably already noticed several running changes we've made to the product versus what's photographed in the manual. In effect, you're showing the V2 despite the fact I've not mentioned it yet. As I get time I'll update the manual and tell the world about it. Goes to show I'm not the world's best marketer, eh?
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:47 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Come on, Bob! There's at least one person that would like to see this series continue.
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I like it... I like it a lot. I think I'll grab a few for the winter build. Is the sale still on?
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Yes, Bob, please mention the tail drive shaft is now drilled and tapped one the bottom side now. FWIW, previously, a drop of threadlocker secured the bearing to the shaft but enough folks skipped over this that we decided to use the new method. It's especially easy since we can perform this step while we're already manipulating that shaftand thus, it doesn't add appreciably to our unit cost. You've probably already noticed several running changes we've made to the product versus what's photographed in the manual. In effect, you're showing the V2 despite the fact I've not mentioned it yet. As I get time I'll update the manual and tell the world about it. Goes to show I'm not the world's best marketer, eh?
I assembled like the directions instructed with the black ca and red loctite. I went to flip the block around and insert the screw, but can't get the bearing out of the block, or the bearing off the shaft! Is it really a necessary mod or can I just wait until it needs replaced?
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