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|12-01-2010, 10:28 AM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2010
I posted this on another forum with very low feedback so i thought i would try this forum since it is dedicated to helis. I just copyed and pasted it sorry if it doesnt make since.
I know there are threads on the Hk 450 but i am new to helis and was wondering which is the best to get of the alloy version versis the pro with belt or torque tube.
The following 3(pros or cons of each if anyone knows?)
http://hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store...dProduct=10902 -pro with belt
-pro with shaft
-Alloy version of the HK450MT
And im very new like never flown one in real life but I use phoneix sim so and on it i can hover with nose in any direction and do figure 8s and very very mild 3d which normally ends in a crash unless i am hovering inverted or have good altiude. I have been flying planes for a while and i know that the simulator isnt a 100% accurte to your skills but I am fairly confident that i could hover a heli in real life right now, but wouldnt want to push it much passed that. I mainly want a heli i can grow into that will be able to do anything i throw at it or atleast last a year or two before needing to upgrade to something better.
This is the setup i want to use on one of the above helis:
Hobby King 401B AVCS Digital Head Lock Gyro x1
Turnigy E500 6T 4000Kv 200W Heli Motor x1
TURNIGY BESC Programming Card x1 (not sure why? someone told me to get one. anyone have an idea?)
TURNIGY Plush 40amp Speed Controller x1
Turnigy DS480 Digital Servo 1.85kg / .068sec / 10.9g x1
ZIPPY Flightmax 2200mAh 3S1P 25C x4
HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo x3
And a 11 and 13 tooth pinion and maybe an align screw set. Any suggestions to the set up/ changes anyone recomends?
I also hear that they dont come with manuals is there any truth to this?
|12-02-2010, 03:45 PM||#2 (permalink)|
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Margate, England
hi nightflyer...just passing through here and thought i would post as the stuff you are going to order is virtually the same as i was going to order last year.
i had a 400 esky.(very poor model and electrics) and wanted to go 450.
i wanted the hk450 pro tt.
after a bit of reaserch i decided to go with align as more posts in the clone forums were poor parts in the kits and parts out of stock, waiting for shipping ect.
costs a bit more but its well worth it...consider it....
the 401 gyro is a poor copy of a futaba...the innards are not the same..trust me i have owned both
you need the program card to program the esc.....you can do it with the tx but its a pain to.
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|12-14-2010, 02:27 AM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Adelaide,South Australia.
G'day Nightflyer. I have two HK's with near identical equipment you list. I do use Align motors,3600kv's I think,only because I had a couple spare laying around. I have crashed both HK's on numerous occasions and have used the odd Align part here and there because my spares box is bottomless so to speak,but usually stick to the HK stuff when I can. You will use some Align parts as you go,it will be self evident which HK bits are not up to par but they do fly OK out of the box.
The birds will fly ok if you set 'em up right. I use the 11t pinion. I do not trust freaky head speeds on HK's and the 4000 is going to scream, but that's just my opinion.
The 401 gyro works fine,however it is NOT a Futaba that is for sure. It will be OK for now.Just do the mod to be safe.
Stay away from torque tubes,they are for the brave at heart who have barrels of money. AKA expensive in a crash,OK?
No disrespect to other peoples opinions but if you are gunna crash and you will, it is better to crash an el-cheapo than a high end heli. Yeah sure the Align stuff is way better but that is not going to prevent you from crashing.Get all of your crashing done and dusted early on the HK's and then graduate to a better heli. These cheap clones demand respect and have limitations but set up correctly are a ball to fly.
Just use a standard Align manual to build the thing. The HK's are damn near identical. Build carefully and double check all your screws for tightness/threadlok etc.etc.
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