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jgeorgic · 02-02-2007, 08:14 PM

To all those at Helifreak and Rick Lohr:

I have removed my item from Ebay an discontinued all sales until further notice.I would like to extend my thanks to all who have supported my design improvement but given the extenuating circumstances I feel it is in the best intest of myself and the RC community to do so.

Regards,
JG

jgeorgic · 02-02-2007, 08:31 PM

From 2-2-07 thru 2-5-7 I will offer any Helifreak member the JG's 401 Gyro Mount for a introductory price of $12 and FREE Shipping.Just contact me via PM to set up the transaction via PAYPAL.

Thanks !

sleddog7 · 02-02-2007, 08:32 PM

Rick Lohr's products... You can't build a better mouse trap, SIMPLY THE BEST and lighter too.

jgeorgic · 02-02-2007, 08:34 PM

4 grams for the JG Mount..................Rick has a GREAT Product..I can't argue that..........

Heli_harry · 02-02-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog7

Rick Lohr's products... You can't build a better mouse trap, SIMPLY THE BEST and lighter too.

Agreed!

Rick Makes some nice stuff.

It is always easy to copy anothers idea...

The true test is to come up with a NEW product.

jgeorgic · 02-02-2007, 08:37 PM

Man you guys are killin me..........

I'm just giving people a option at my "mouse trap"

sleddog7 · 02-02-2007, 08:45 PM

JG, Exactly how is your mount improved from Rick's internationaly known and proven product? Just asking.

jgeorgic · 02-02-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog7

JG, Exactly how is your mount improved from Rick's internationaly known and proven product? Just asking.

The body of the mount was formed via a mold taken from the cavity of the mounting area and reverse engineered.The result was a snap type fit into the mounting cavity with a 1 piece billet design.I also include 3M mouting tape for both the gyro and heli side of the mount.Total weight without mounting tape is 4 grams.

sleddog7 · 02-02-2007, 09:08 PM

I see

rdlohr · 02-03-2007, 10:34 AM

Pride alone should keep someone from doing something like this! The heli community is tight and they call out when something is wrong!

Thanks for your support sleddog and everyone else!

Here is my post from when someone notified me of the Ebay listing.
https://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?p=258264#258264

Heli_harry · 02-03-2007, 11:18 AM

Rick,

I too have a milling machine and could have easily knocked it off.

But there is no way I'd ever do that, as it's just plain wrong.

Good Luck!

Finless · 02-03-2007, 11:36 AM

I dont want to judge or get into this arguement so you all can decide that. BUT I do think a little history here might be in order.

I came up with the idea of mounting the gyro under the Trex450 over a year ago. I had pictures and detailed instructions for HOW to make the mod and it was posted on RR but as you all know all that information was deleted. I did it by grinding the frames a little and flipping the boom block on the SE so it had a flat surface (no need to do this on the plastic block). People didnt like the idea of dremelling the frame. Rick took that idea and with my support invented the gyro mount design and idea! Others had many other ideas but Ricks was the best and cleanest.

Since then he has been the only one making them and they are on hundreds of helis and even sold by vendors like Readyheli etc.

Anyway Rick WAS the first to come up with this idea... I know I was there....

I dont think this guys "design" is really different just the material. You all can be the judge if it is a rip off or not. I wont get in that arguement but I did feel you all should know how the thing came into existance.

jgeorgic PM'ed me to send me one to look at so I will give it a fair look but I did tell him I support Rick as it was his idea. jgeorgic was OK with that and still wanted to send me one.

Bob

Skiddz · 02-03-2007, 11:39 AM

I freely admit I "stole" Rick's idea and milled up a similar mount out of acrylic. "Billet" acrylic if you will. Mine also "snaps" into place with a friction fit. No molding or reverse engineering. I simply measured then milled.

The thought of making a bunch and selling them online never even occurred to me.

flunk · 02-03-2007, 05:42 PM

excuse me, but i think you are stupid, thinking this is an "unique" design... i built myself the same thing long before rdlohr showed his version... what is it with you people? it's not rocket science we're talking about. it's a piece of plastic! you don't have the patent for the design, do you? and jg's design is an IMPROVEMENT of the design.

*edit* also, he does mention the rdlohr design as "being the first". it's up to us which one we prefer.

hot4teach · 02-03-2007, 05:42 PM

This same sort of thing happened to me when I was manufacturing cf blades for the Ikarus Piccolo. The website was www.carbonblades.com. To make a long story short, soon others were making cheeper knockoffs. Helihobby was even selling them using a picture of my blades. What could I do?

Fixed pitch has all but gone away. So, that business is dead now anyway.

02-02-2007, 08:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
jgeorgic Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	Check out this...JG's 401 Gryo Mount To all those at Helifreak and Rick Lohr: I have removed my item from Ebay an discontinued all sales until further notice.I would like to extend my thanks to all who have supported my design improvement but given the extenuating circumstances I feel it is in the best intest of myself and the RC community to do so. Regards, JG

02-02-2007, 08:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
jgeorgic Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	4 grams for the JG Mount..................Rick has a GREAT Product..I can't argue that.......... __________________ rcbooya.com

02-02-2007, 08:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
jgeorgic Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	Man you guys are killin me.......... I'm just giving people a option at my "mouse trap" __________________ rcbooya.com

02-03-2007, 10:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
rdlohr HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	Pride alone should keep someone from doing something like this! The heli community is tight and they call out when something is wrong! Thanks for your support sleddog and everyone else! Here is my post from when someone notified me of the Ebay listing. https://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?p=258264#258264 __________________ Helifreak, the place to be! Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com

02-03-2007, 11:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	I dont want to judge or get into this arguement so you all can decide that. BUT I do think a little history here might be in order. I came up with the idea of mounting the gyro under the Trex450 over a year ago. I had pictures and detailed instructions for HOW to make the mod and it was posted on RR but as you all know all that information was deleted. I did it by grinding the frames a little and flipping the boom block on the SE so it had a flat surface (no need to do this on the plastic block). People didnt like the idea of dremelling the frame. Rick took that idea and with my support invented the gyro mount design and idea! Others had many other ideas but Ricks was the best and cleanest. Since then he has been the only one making them and they are on hundreds of helis and even sold by vendors like Readyheli etc. Anyway Rick WAS the first to come up with this idea... I know I was there.... I dont think this guys "design" is really different just the material. You all can be the judge if it is a rip off or not. I wont get in that arguement but I did feel you all should know how the thing came into existance. jgeorgic PM'ed me to send me one to look at so I will give it a fair look but I did tell him I support Rick as it was his idea. jgeorgic was OK with that and still wanted to send me one. Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

02-02-2007, 08:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
jgeorgic Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	From 2-2-07 thru 2-5-7 I will offer any Helifreak member the JG's 401 Gyro Mount for a introductory price of $12 and FREE Shipping.Just contact me via PM to set up the transaction via PAYPAL. Thanks !

02-02-2007, 08:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
sleddog7 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006	Rick Lohr's products... You can't build a better mouse trap, SIMPLY THE BEST and lighter too.

02-02-2007, 08:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
sleddog7 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006	JG, Exactly how is your mount improved from Rick's internationaly known and proven product? Just asking.

02-02-2007, 09:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
sleddog7 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006	I see

02-03-2007, 11:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
Heli_harry Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2006	Rick, I too have a milling machine and could have easily knocked it off. But there is no way I'd ever do that, as it's just plain wrong. Good Luck!

02-03-2007, 11:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
Skiddz HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	I freely admit I "stole" Rick's idea and milled up a similar mount out of acrylic. "Billet" acrylic if you will. Mine also "snaps" into place with a friction fit. No molding or reverse engineering. I simply measured then milled. The thought of making a bunch and selling them online never even occurred to me. __________________ -Kevin No helicopters were harmed in the creation of this post. AMA CD # 7309, Turbine Waiver# RW 890 Click Here For Bergen Intrepid Turbine Build Videos

02-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
flunk Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2006	excuse me, but i think you are stupid, thinking this is an "unique" design... i built myself the same thing long before rdlohr showed his version... what is it with you people? it's not rocket science we're talking about. it's a piece of plastic! you don't have the patent for the design, do you? and jg's design is an IMPROVEMENT of the design. edit also, he does mention the rdlohr design as "being the first". it's up to us which one we prefer.

02-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
hot4teach Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2006	This same sort of thing happened to me when I was manufacturing cf blades for the Ikarus Piccolo. The website was www.carbonblades.com. To make a long story short, soon others were making cheeper knockoffs. Helihobby was even selling them using a picture of my blades. What could I do? Fixed pitch has all but gone away. So, that business is dead now anyway.

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