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Old 02-25-2011, 06:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi everyone----can anyone tell me the differance between these two setting in the microbeast manual
i have a jr vibe 90 with the swash set at 140* but wondering what status to go with
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hi everyone----can anyone tell me the differance between these two setting in the microbeast manual
i have a jr vibe 90 with the swash set at 140* but wondering what status to go with
looking foward to the awswer
140

not 1:1
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeap, 1:1 is for Hirobo.
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ok--thanks for answer
but what does it mean
sorry that i am a bit thick
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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thanks for that link

that was interesting for me and now i am i bit wiser

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Old 02-26-2011, 08:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I wrote to beastx about that and I was told in most cases it's the 1:1 if you fly the Vibe or Outrage on 140 it's the 1:1 setting. Regards Pete
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Can you post the actual reply please as what you have written goes against this current info.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It's in German since I speak German. Why dot you guys ask them in the forum that's what's it's for. The 1:1 means that they have all the same Ration, so if your swash has the extension pins on aileron and pitch then it's 1:1 quite simple. The pins are there to make them travel the same distance.

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Old 02-27-2011, 09:33 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Here if it helps.
Hallo,

bist Du im Rc-Heli.de registriert? Da gibt's einen schön langen Thread drüber, was das bedeutet inkl. schöner Bilder:

http://www.rc-heli.de/board/showthre...light=140+grad


Ansonsten hier die Kurzerklärung:

Wenn Du von der Seite auf die TS schaust, dann sind ja bei einer 120° Ts die Rollservos viel näher an der Hauptrotorwelle dran als der Anlenkpunkt von Nick.
Wenn Du also "Nick" steuerst, müssen die Rollservos nur den halben Weg fahren wie das Nickservo. Da so eine Steuerbewegung ja ein bisserl dauert, läuft die Ansteuerung unterschiedlich schnell ab, was in einem kurzzeitigen Pitchinput resultiert.

Also hat man die Rollservopunkte weiter vor verlegt am TS-Ring auf 140°. Dann wird die Differenz der Abstände geringer, aber immer noch nicht absolut 1:1.

Um auch noch das letzte Stück zu überbrücken werden die Anlenkpunkte mit längeren Kugelbolzen weiter weg gebracht von der Taumelscheibe. Von der Seite betrachtet sind die Abstände nun 1:1 und die Rollservos müssen genausoviel Weg fahren wie das Nickservo. Von oben betrachtet, liegen die Rollanlenkpunkte aber jetzt gar nicht mehr auf dem Einheitskreis, sind also in radialer Richtung viel weiter weg von der Hauptrotorwelle als der Nickanlenkpunkt.

Du brauchst also bloß Deine Taumelscheibe anschauen, von oben oder von der Seite und schon weißt Du, welchen Typ dein Heli hat. Die meisten haben übrigens so eine 1:1 Anlenkung (JR, Hirobo und soweit ich weiß auch dein Outrage )
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks Turkana, that does indeed help. It looks like I have been flying the Vibe on the first 140 option and not 1:1. I'll do the set up again and see how it flys.
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There will not be a big diffrence but there is a diffrence if you know what I mean. I think in the normal 140 deg setting that there is a artificial delay on aileron and pitch, so if you use that on the 1:1 swashplate like on the Vibe or Outrage, it could be that you get a small interaction since your servos are delayed a bit. Anyway good luck and enjoy. Reagrds Pete
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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thanks lads---
checked my vibe 90 and it is the 140=1-1
so sorted now
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