Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > Blade Helicopters (eFlite) > mCP X


mCP X Blade Micro CPx Helicopters Information and Help


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-24-2011, 05:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 752
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Dec 2010
Thumbs up New grips from HH

Hi,

Very soon a new bulletin will be posted... I expect it to appear on the product page.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=BLH3500

We have been working very hard regarding the reports of 'bearing/grip' issues.
Essentially, the bulletin is offering all mCP X customers a new revised rotor head.

The revised 'B' head is complete, minus the blades and blade screws, this will make it easy for the customer to replace. It is assembled and includes all the bearings, grips, spindle, dampers, spacers, etc.

I will provide some additional background information for you enthusiasts on the internet.
A key difference is that the plastic between the bearings has been increased. The result of this is that even if the bearing disassembles itself, and the balls are removed, the inner race of the bearing cannot pass through the grips.

It is almost like a backup plastic bearing, and we have flown multiple packs through this configuration (without the 'balls' in the bearings), and while the performance is degraded, there are no thrown blades.

We have also rigged helis with balls but no ball separater ring, and flown them untill the bearing completed its dissassembly in flight, with no dramatic effects. (There were many tests of the altered parts which are not detailed here)

The new grips can be identified by a small 'B' molded in the outer part of the grip. As of today 'March 24, 2011', there are none of these in the field, so even though the document is written to be 'future proof', do not expect to find any of the B's as of now.

Additionally, as I said before, we have standardized on the 'brass ring out' configuration of the bearings as the consistent and preferred orientation of the bearings, and the B heads are assembled this way.
We are working with our supply chain to make sure bearing quality is per our expectations.
For other minor adjustments....
The early B heads have a custom thread lock (pre dried) compound inside the spindle threads. We are evaluating changing to the '222 purple' thread lock standard in the future. (Properly tightened, no thread lock seems to work fine)
The altered design also traps the outer bearing spacer cage against the plastic wall, further minimizing the opportunity for bearing dissassembly on the outer bearing which primarily takes axial loads.

For timing, there is a requirement for a large qauntity of these around the world, and it is our highest priority to take care of our existing customers. Some quantity is already in route via express shipping. I think the product will start going to customers early next week, and as an expectation, I expect it will take up to 3 weeks to fill all the requirements (my personal feeling). I know that even a few days seems like a long time in this internet age, and we are working hard to minimized the time. Look for the form early... as this should result in getting the updated head early.
(For folks outside the US and Canada, check at your local Blade distributers outlets for more information... It may be best to allow one more day to allow them to the the final methods in place)

Please read the official documents, as what I have provided here is just unofficial background information from the best of my personal memory.

Thanks for your support, and sorry for the inconvenience,
David (on behalf of the Blade Team)
destinbeachman is online now        Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-24-2011, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 11,438
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Default

Good to hear.
__________________
THIS IS MY SIGNATURE. THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE.
Mojappa is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: May 2010
Default

Sounds good and the extra boca bearings I bought will probably still fit then.
__________________
Scott

Trex450 sport -- Trex550 FBL -- Swift NX
RC'er is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Default

Do we need to call Horizon to request for the new head replacement?

Thanks
zsultan is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,548
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Default

As always Horizon Hobby/ E flight customer support is very hard to beat.When ever there is a new model..It doesn't matter what it is, there are always a few bumps in the road.
This is great news....
Nytro97 is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Default

This is good to hear. I'll be sending in my request as soon as I get to my computer! I think I'll leave it complete as they provide it (including stock bearings) for extended testing of the new design.
BrandonB is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 11,438
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Default

Maybe they'll trade my pack of spare grips for the new one's?
__________________
THIS IS MY SIGNATURE. THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE.
Mojappa is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,353
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Default

Who is this guy?

Here is a direct link to the bulletin: http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=BLH3500
__________________
To me, this forum is about the love of flying R/C helicopters. It is about the sharing of information and, on a good day, some humor. It is not about post count, brand of heli, or any other superfluous labels that lend themselves to a false sense of superiority. Respect one another, Try to pass on accurate information. Fly safe.
AverageJoe is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 752
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Dec 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojappa View Post
Maybe they'll trade my pack of spare grips for the new one's?
I already requested a replacement set,and I asked that my spare set(which I already used one bearing from) be replaced as well.We'll see.
destinbeachman is online now        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Default

Excellent. Great little heli, the support is even better.
Raysun is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,184
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Sep 2009
Default

It was a past from David Ribbe
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=8923

Some photos







I'm happy, sad that it there was problem, but great response
toys2cars2toys is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,184
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Sep 2009
Default

Link to ordering request
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=BLH3500
toys2cars2toys is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Default

If you use a web email, it saves the form, but it is easy to miss where to send it to.

The address to send it to is;
[email protected]
__________________
Wayne Bengston
Gootch 450 Pro, Walkera 4G3 & 4G6
Blade 120 SR and mCP X
PZ Night Vapor, Ember and UM Mosquito. M-A-E Penguin
VaderSS is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 06:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 821
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Default

Awesome!

I have not had a separated bearing on either of my helis, since I replaced with Aligns out of the box, but this is a tremendous response, in coming up with a VERY secure, total head redesign in such a short time, and then making it available so quickly.

Kudos, HH!!!
tracknoob is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 07:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Default

Well, the design appears to be "fail-safe" in that a bearing failure will only cause difficulty of control, as opposed to a flung blade.

I still intend to install Boca bearings, but now I can rest easy that, even if top quality bearings fail, the blade won't be flung.
__________________
Wayne Bengston
Gootch 450 Pro, Walkera 4G3 & 4G6
Blade 120 SR and mCP X
PZ Night Vapor, Ember and UM Mosquito. M-A-E Penguin
VaderSS is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 07:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 752
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Dec 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tracknoob View Post
Awesome!

I have not had a separated bearing on either of my helis, since I replaced with Aligns out of the box, but this is a tremendous response, in coming up with a VERY secure, total head redesign in such a short time, and then making it available so quickly.

Kudos, HH!!!
+1 I believe this is actually better than just trying to find upgraded bearings.Anyone who wants is still free to use whatever better bearings they want but regardless,the grips should stay on if the bearings fail for any reason.
destinbeachman is online now        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 07:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,184
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Sep 2009
Default

When these grips become readily available to buy extra sets, if it's still needed I may try adding an extra bearing by drilling the seat deeper

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Double Bearing.JPG
Views:	1241
Size:	35.1 KB
ID:	217126  
toys2cars2toys is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 07:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VaderSS View Post
If you use a web email, it only saves the form, but does not tell you where to send it to.

The address to send it to is;
[email protected].
In the description for web client it says
you will then need to save your form and return it manually to [email protected]

I sent it there and got an autoreply back right away.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	websubmit.jpg
Views:	284
Size:	56.3 KB
ID:	217127  
khogan is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 07:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by khogan View Post
In the description for web client it says
you will then need to save your form and return it manually to [email protected]

I sent it there and got an autoreply back right away.
Thanks. I edited my post.
__________________
Wayne Bengston
Gootch 450 Pro, Walkera 4G3 & 4G6
Blade 120 SR and mCP X
PZ Night Vapor, Ember and UM Mosquito. M-A-E Penguin
VaderSS is offline        Quick reply to this message
Old 03-24-2011, 07:24 PM   #20 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 821
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by toys2cars2toys View Post
When these grips become readily available to buy extra sets, if it's still needed I may try adding an extra bearing by drilling the seat deeper

(chuckle)

They haven't even been made yet, much less avail, and we are already modd'ing them!



tracknoob is offline        Quick reply to this message
Closed Thread




Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the HeliFreak forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your REAL and WORKING email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself. Use a real email address or you will not be granted access to the site. Thank you.
Email Address:
Location
Where do you live? ie: Country, State, City or General Geographic Location please.
Name and Lastname
Enter name and last name here. (This information is not shown to the general public. Optional)
Helicopter #1
Enter Helicopter #1 type and equipment.
Helicopter #2
Enter Helicopter #2 type and equipment.
Helicopter #3
Enter Helicopter #3 type and equipment.
Helicopter #4
Enter Helicopter #4 type and equipment.

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright © Website Acquisitions Inc. All rights reserved.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1