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Old 06-19-2011, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Post your Beastx heli setup here

This thread is for folks to post their heli setups, so others can see what mechanicals are needed and what the settings, if any are.
Please post where you get the blue light in the 6 degree menu and what you did to get it and any other pertinent data.

Maybe make this a sticky?
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Trex 600N

Model / motor / headspeed:-----Trex 600N / TT53 / governed 2000 rpm
Main blades ----- Rotortech 603 3D
Tail ----- Stock Align carbons / QuickUK grip assy
Head / swash / links ----- Outage 50 FBL head assy / Quick UK swash / blue light at 6.2 degrees using stock swash balls and outer hole in Outage grip arm. Cyclic limit at max

Cyclic servos ----- Futaba 9452 cyclic with Align FBL servo wheels, 12.5 mm arm hole used
Tail servo ----- Futaba 9254 tail, 13.5 mm arm hole used
Mounting ----- Front location on 2 layers of 3M 410 tape

TX setup, DX7

TX Mode
Ail and Elev endpoints 110/110, rudder at 105/105
D/R 0 (Idle 1 and 2) = 100% (Idle 1 and 2) 25% cyclic expo, Rudder = 25%
D/R 1 (Normal and TH) = 80%, 35% cyclic expo, Rudder = 25%
Gyro gain in Gyro sens menu - 75

No precomp, Gain in parameter menu D set to high (blue flashing)

Flys like its on rails, precomp introduces issues with fast pitch pumps and tic tocs
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Compass Atom 500 5.5 Stretched
Setup as of 6.19.2011
PM for Current Setup/Help

Rotortech 510's; SAB 470's
JR Z3650 on cyclic
JR DS8900G on tail
KBDD 70mm tail blades w/ tail grips flipped for leading-edge control
Stock damping

Futaba 8FG
R6203SB receiver
Stock Hobbywing 60A ESC
Western Robotics Hercules High Current 5A BEC @ 5.5V

BeastX mounted on gyro tray w/ grey 3M outdoor heavy duty tape.
Cyclic balls @ 15mm using stock Compass arms
Tail ball @ 10.5mm using JR horn
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great idea!!

Here's mine:

Trex 450 Sport
Spektrum H3000's on cyclic
Spektrum H3020 on the tail
Castle ICE 50
Align 450 m motor
Align Sport FBL head
JR remote receiver

Transmitter mode
25% expo on aileron and elevator
15% expo for the tail
110% ATV for aileron and elevator
105% ATV for the tail
72% transmitter gyro gain

Parameter menus
B control behavior - transmitter
C pitching up behavior - very low (purple)
D headlock gain - low (red flashing)
E stick deadband - 1 (purple)
F torque precomp (off)



Trex 550e
Align DS 610's on cyclic
JR 8900G on the tail
Castle ICE 100
Scorpion HK-4025-1100
Align FBL head
Spektrum AR7600 receiver

Transmitter mode
20% expo on aileron and elevator
10% expo for the tail
105% ATV for aileron and elevator
105% ATV for the tail
60% transmitter gyro gain

Parameter menus
B control behavior - transmitter
C pitching up behavior - very low (purple)
D headlock gain - low (red flashing)
E stick deadband - 1 (purple)
F torque precomp (off)

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Old 06-20-2011, 09:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It is better to keep a common format in the next posts.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I copy paste smaze17 format and change for my own value.

Trex 450 pro
Spektrum H3000's on cyclic
Hitec HSG 5084mg on the tail
Castle ICE 50 governor mode 3100rpm
Scorpion 2221-10 motor (4s lipo)
Align pro FBL head
Modified swashplate to get 6° blue
Hitec aurora9 remote receiver

Transmitter mode
-15% expo on aileron and elevator
-15% expo for the tail
110% ATV for aileron and elevator
100% ATV for the tail
78% transmitter gyro gain (end point menu)

Parameter menus
B control behavior - transmitter
C pitching up behavior - medium (red)
D headlock gain - high (blue flashing)
E stick deadband - 3 (red)
F torque precomp (on 25)
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Quick translation (to myself):

110% ATV means => 150% ATV (setup as per book) + 73% D/R

Pretty much as I have on mine. I go even to up 85% D/R (127.5% ATV).
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Keep 'em coming guys.......this is a great thread and will hopefully help our fellow freaks with their Beastx set-ups



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Old 06-20-2011, 01:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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great Idea for a thread.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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C'mon guys......let's get some more Beastx set-ups

I made an edit to my 450 Sport settings. Changed parameter D to low (red flashing) with a transmitter gain setting of 72%. I was experiencing a slight tail kick to the right during punch outs but increasing headinglock gain to low from very low solved that. Tail is rock solid now

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Old 06-23-2011, 10:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This is a great idea! I was also hoping to see some throttle & pitch curves.. Can anyone share this as well? I'm more interested in knowing what the best would be for normal mode.

I'm not really sure what to expect when it comes to switching into idle up from normal mode, but I'm trying to make sure that it goes as smoothly as possible... with little to no jump in headspeed. Is it ok to start spooling up in idle up, by using the throttle hold switch? I preffered this method of taking off with my SR, but I'm not sure if the 450 will behave the same way. Can someone elaborate on this so I know what to expect?
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Old 06-23-2011, 11:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well since I'm running a CC ICE 50 in governor mode on my 450 Sport, I pretty much run 0, 30, 30, 30, 30 for normal, flat 70 for idle 1 & flat 100 for idle 2.

However, on my 550 with a CC ICE 100 I'm running 0, 60, 80, 80, 80 in normal, flat 85 in idle 1 & flat 90 in idle 2



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Old 06-24-2011, 02:39 AM   #13 (permalink)
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any beastX settings for stock equipment Trex 500 3G?
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:01 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Compass 3Dplus
Futaba BLS451 on cyclic
Futaba BLS251 on the tail
OS 55 - Hatori muffler
Spektrum AR7110R
Spektrum DX8

Transmitter mode
10% expo on aileron and elevator
20% expo for the tail
110% ATV for aileron and elevator
98% ATV for the tail
43% transmitter gyro gain

Parameter menus
B control behavior - transmitter
C pitching up behavior - medium (red)
D headlock gain - high (blue flashing)
E stick deadband - 3 (red)
F torque precomp (on 25, but will remove it, and see if the tail improves)


I am not satisfied with the tail at all, but will try a different tail-servo on my next bird, a 700N with the following:

Hitec HS7940TH on cyclic
MKS BLS990 (if I can find it anywhere near me)
YS91SR with hatori muffler.
AR7110R

Waiting for V3 software
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting your settings latte

I tried to experiment with the headlock gain on high but couldn't get the tail right. I ended up going with low and 72% in the transmitter.

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any beastX settings for stock equipment Trex 500 3G?
Hi gfdimopo. I would suggest setting up your 500 with the factory default settings. I've found that the Beastx usually works really well right outta the box with very little adjustments needed.

I would recommend setting your 500 up then reading this thread:

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=279967

Excellent tuning guide by nwmtech....thanks again

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Thanks for posting your settings latte

I tried to experiment with the headlock gain on high but couldn't get the tail right. I ended up going with low and 72% in the transmitter.

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I am very pleased with piro-consistency. That is absolutely incredible, but during biig fast hurricanes, I cant get the tail-locked into the direction, it sort of slides back and forth over my "thought" centerline. I think its time to check for slop in links, or even change some parts in the tail. I wouldnt be surprised if it has worn out already.


I am really exited about this 700 I am building now, with beastx
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I am very pleased with piro-consistency. That is absolutely incredible, but during biig fast hurricanes, I cant get the tail-locked into the direction, it sort of slides back and forth over my "thought" centerline. I think its time to check for slop in links, or even change some parts in the tail. I wouldnt be surprised if it has worn out already.


I am really exited about this 700 I am building now, with beastx
I think also when V3 comes out there will be even better tail tunability I reckon

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I haven't messed with any of the default parameters, except for the control behavior. I will update this post if I find something to tweak.

Trex 450 Pro
Hitec HS-5065MG on cyclic
MKS 8910A+ on the tail
Align 35A ESC
Align 450M motor
KDE head w/ Mikado swash follower
JR remote receiver

Transmitter mode
25% expo on aileron and elevator
20% expo for the tail
110% ATV for aileron and elevator
100% ATV for the tail
72% transmitter gyro gain

Parameter menus
B control behavior - transmitter (blue)
C pitching up behavior - medium (red)
D headlock gain - medium (red)
E stick deadband - 2 (red flashing)
F torque precomp - off (purple)
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I haven't messed with any of the default parameters, except for the control behavior. I will update this post if I find something to tweak.

Trex 450 Pro
Hitec HS-5065MG on cyclic
MKS 8910A+ on the tail
Align 35A ESC
Align 450M motor
KDE head w/ Mikado swash follower
JR remote receiver

Transmitter mode
25% expo on aileron and elevator
20% expo for the tail
110% ATV for aileron and elevator
100% ATV for the tail
72% transmitter gyro gain

Parameter menus
B control behavior - transmitter (blue)
C pitching up behavior - medium (red)
D headlock gain - medium (red)
E stick deadband - 2 (red flashing)
F torque precomp - off (purple)
Your settings are almost identical to my Sport

Nice

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