Want to fly my Lama outside. Are these parts what I need? - HeliFreak
Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > Antique Out of Production and Vintage Helicopters > E-Sky Helicopters > Lama V3/V4 and Kob


Lama V3/V4 and Kob E-Sky Lama V3 and V4 and Kob


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-31-2011, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: London
Default Want to fly my Lama outside. Are these parts what I need?

I'm sick and tired of my lama being blown away uncontrollably in even the slightest breeze.

Will these parts allow for outdoor flight in slight winds?
1- Xtreme extended 8mm shaft or 12mm
2- Longer servo arms from Blade cx2 (eflrsa100)
and finally, Xtreme blades

Is this all I need, or am I missing something?

I intend to order everything I need in one go off the internet within the next few hours, so I appreciate any quick help on this.

Cheers,
Purps
purple aki is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-01-2011, 02:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Default

Good luck on the quick, high quality reply. This subforum is almost a ghost-town!


From little experience I have, these look like the parts that would be the most helpful.

I'm not 100% sure about the servo arms. If you got a Lama with sown-off arms, you may need to modify the airframe a bit to make sure that the new arms fit.

This should improve the stability somewhat, but from what I can see, the only sure way is to do the dual swashplate modification. You can find some information on how to do that here.

EDIT: I almost forgot! I've seen some people claim that a shorter flybar, especially when used without the weights, will improve the performance in the wind a bit because the position of the upper blades will be able to change more quickly.


Also a bit of rant: Yesterday I was flying my Hunter and wind picked up so quickly that I had to spend the entire battery chasing the helicopter and trying to land it. In the end I managed to bring altitude to "just" 10 meters when the motors cut off.


Also don't forget to post results of the modifications!
AndrejaKo is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2011, 10:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 4,216
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Default

I have a wide variety of co-axials and I have done the mods you are thinking about, several times.

My experience has been that there is just no way of modding a small co-axial to fly in windy conditions.

The main problems are a lack of adjustable pitch and the light weight of the heli.

If you enjoy tinkering with your helis and modding them, then by all means do these mods. They will make the the heli more responsive and fun to fly. However it is still going to be thrown about by the wind.

The extreme blades will make the biggest difference in flight charactoristics. They will give more lift at lower rpm and the effect is like adding power.

The extended shaft is also a good addition as it will pretty much stop blade strikes which will allow you to make more drastic control inputs. This is especially helpful in pulling back collective to stop forward flight quickly.

The longer servo arms are probably not necessary if you use the outer most holes on the stock arms. Any more movement than that and the heli gets very touchy and more difficult to fly.
__________________
- Jack
Cranky old fart and charter member of ESO
Lots of Helis
mnwizard is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2011, 12:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Default

The problem with stock servo arms is that they are often sawn-off, so replacement arms which are full size may be needed.

Also do you have any experience with dual swashplate or flybarless mods? From what I've seen on youtube, some helis with dual swashplate can survive some wind and flybarless modification makes them even more resistant.

This looks interesting to me as a long term modification project.
AndrejaKo is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-05-2011, 01:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Washington state, Bellevue
Default Outside flying

I fly my Lama Extreme uprade outside all the time. Usually in the evenings with light or no wind. But it can handle some wind. You have to plan for it when flying.

Last edited by bryont; 10-06-2011 at 10:15 PM.. Reason: type spelling
bryont is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-20-2011, 01:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: China
Default

I have MD520 Lama 4, well I will choose to fly it indoor for I try on flying slightly. my lama is very tractable.. I treated him patiently so that he can be easily under controlled.
Karenheli is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply




Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the HeliFreak forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your REAL and WORKING email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself. Use a real email address or you will not be granted access to the site. Thank you.
Email Address:
Location
Where do you live? ie: Country, State, City or General Geographic Location please.
Name and Lastname
Enter name and last name here. (This information is not shown to the general public. Optional)
Helicopter #1
Enter Helicopter #1 type and equipment.
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)
Helicopter #2
Enter Helicopter #2 type and equipment.
Helicopter #3
Enter Helicopter #3 type and equipment.
Helicopter #4
Enter Helicopter #4 type and equipment.

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.
 

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1