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Old 01-03-2012, 05:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default ESC Programming? 3gx settings for stock EFL Pro?

I am finishing up my 500EFL build. I have uploaded the stock 500 settings to my 3gx, but am curious as to which settings I should be changing (if any) before I test fly? I also need to program the ESC, and am curious as to which settings I should be choosing? It has been a very long time since I setup my last heli (a trex 600), and cant remember what should be picked. Thank you in advance!

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Brake: Disabled, Soft, Hard
Timing: Low, Mid, High
Batt Protection: High cutoff, middle cutoff
Aircraft: plane, heli w/ soft start, heli w/ soft start & governor
Throttle response: standard, medium, quick
bec output: 5.0, 5.5, 6.0
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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download bob's ESC setup video form the 500 build thread, and play the video as you program the ESC

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Old 01-03-2012, 08:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default ESC Programming for Stock EFL 500 Pro

Well ,If you started with the standard Align ESC, then the default settings will be sufficient for the set-up. Check the Manual for the settings. Also listen to the ESC startup beebs when you plug in a battery ( I use a 3S) and count the tones and you will be able determint the actual settings. The Voltage is set at 5.5 V default.


I just finished my build but am waiting for a swash leveler before I set up my 3GX

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Old 01-03-2012, 11:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you still need to do the ESC setup so the ESC learns the hi and low stick points from your radio
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Should I stick with the 5.5v, or up it to 6v? It looks like the servos that came with the kit will be able to handle 6??

Also, should I be running heli with soft start, or heli with soft start and governor?


Lastly, nobody has any insight to the 3gx settings?????
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I run the bec at the default 5.5V...you wont see any difference in performance with .5v and its easier on the bec at lower V. Yes run with soft start and gov if you want to run a consistent HS. Lastly check out the 3GX forum and plug in Leon's settings for a 550E. He has 2 different threads...one for V 1.1 and one for 1.2 so just check out which ever version your running.
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run 6v if the servos can handle it, they and the BEC will be happier

DO NOT USE THE ALIGN GOV, it will do bad things to your heli
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Haha... Ok, 2 conflicting replies... Anyone wanna chime in and be the tie breaker??
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Don't know about breaking a tie but I'll chime in with what works for me.

I'm running everything at their default settings. Just made sure they were set correctly to the defaults when doing esc setup.

I am not using the Align governor. Just a slight v-curve in st1 and flat 100 in st2. Flies nice for me like that.

The default voltage seems to work just fine with the stock servos.

I'm approaching 80 flights with this configuration and no issues at all.
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The Power is volts times amps. Higher voltages will require less amps to do the same work. Run the highest voltage your electronics are capable of.

Regarding the BEC.....it is stepping down the voltage from 25.2 volts. Less of a step down is less work albeit a minimal difference.

You won't see much difference though from 5.5 to 6.0 volts.
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Im sorry I did not mean to imply that you should run the align gov in my post. I have my esc setup with default settings across the board and run flat curves of 85 and 90% in my TX. You can run the bec at 5.5 or 6V its up to you but .5 of a V is not going to make much if any difference in higher amp pulls or performance i can guarantee you that.
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What is everyone running for the voltage cutoff, high or low, I'm getting sub 5min flights in with the high cutoff, packs come in at about 3.8v per cell, and I'm putting back in about 1700mah back into the pack. Hoping to get a little more run time out of her, btw running an 11t pinion with a flat throttle curve, gens ace 2600mah 25c packs.
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The Power is volts times amps. Higher voltages will require less amps to do the same work.
This is simply not the case when it comes to the electronic components. It is true when discussing how many watts are required to run the motor.

If you have a 100ohm resistor and you put it across a 5.5volt battery it will draw or consume 55mA. Now if you increase the voltage to 6 volts the same resistor will draw 60mA.

Only if the bec is of linear design would it be more efficient to run it at its highest voltage. For switching mode I cannot see it making any difference what voltage you set it to.
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You run the highest voltage because the servos will have more torque and work faster at the higher voltage, read the specs...
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You run the highest voltage because the servos will have more torque and work faster at the higher voltage, read the specs...
Running the bec at 6 volts because the servos can take it is not the same as running the bec at 6 volts because it will be happier as you stated in your earlier post.

I agree about the servos but disagree about making the bec happy.

The bec is of switching mode design so I don't think for its well-being it makes any difference what voltage you set it to.
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the greater the difference between input and output voltages, the more heat is generated by the BEC as well

everything is so much happier at 6V
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the greater the difference between input and output voltages, the more heat is generated by the BEC
Accurately describes how a linear regulator works not a switch-mode regulator.
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And yes. i have measured the difference... it is cooler at 6V
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