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Old 10-16-2011, 10:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What's this Green Goblin being advertised on the left here? Looks interesting, and it's in my Dad's colors!

Anybody know if it's a good helicopter?

http://helidirect.com/sab-goblin-700...it-p-24943.hdx
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Let the youtube linkingfest begin
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Vark... you been living under a rock man?

Its a SAB (Italian blade manufacturer) heli division helicopter that's just about to hit the market... there are a bunch of threads and videos popping up.

Their website is under construction, otherwise I would post a link... but you could find the videos in here, just do a search for goblin heli.
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Yes, yes I have been living under a rock, apparently. But it's a very nice rock thank you.

I didn't realize it was Italian made?
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow, the servo and motor layout reminded me the Storm 450! Of course, the similarities end here!

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Old 10-16-2011, 11:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Check the SAB forum for all the videos.
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$1000 for the kit but needs electronics. HeliDirect sells it and deliveries will start on Dec 18th (estimated).

I spec one out using the same setup as their test pilot and I think it came up to around $2500. Isn't that the price range of a TDR? If so, I'm not sure what's a better choice.
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If you consider it comes with SAB main and tail blades the cost of the kit is more like $850, which puts it in line with other non-align 90s.
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What's this Green Goblin being advertised on the left here? Looks interesting, and it's in my Dad's colors!

Anybody know if it's a good helicopter?

http://helidirect.com/sab-goblin-700...it-p-24943.hdx

go on youtube and search tareq alsaadi goblin 700... that will answer any question lol
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$1000 for the kit but needs electronics. HeliDirect sells it and deliveries will start on Dec 18th (estimated).

I spec one out using the same setup as their test pilot and I think it came up to around $2500. Isn't that the price range of a TDR? If so, I'm not sure what's a better choice.
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Ive got 3500 in my TDR. I think the Goblin will be about the same if not more for me.
That being said, you could build it cheaper than that.
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter TDR or Goblin or Diabolo or anything else price wise... costs are almost always the same. Electronics is really expensive... just take a Heli- or Power-Jive, add a limited edition Scorpion, use some HV servos and the VBar is nearly a present after that. Than you have to use some good lipos like TPs 65c and you have a really monster machine.... which costs quit a lot. I ended up at 3500 Euros (5000$) with one 12s TPs. But I'm thinking about going 16s to lower amp draw and being able to use some cheaper batteries.

About the question TDR or Goblin... I had a TDR and sold it because it didn't fit my flying style. A rigid frame with a descend head and main shaft is my main wish. Goblin offers a solid drive train, 12mm shaft and 10mm spindle shaft... that's why I want one.
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dual belt as well I'm told? A Belt from the motor to the pinion, driving the main gear, and belt driven tail. I posted a short vid of Tareq testing one at the Alpine Smackdown. Bert took it for a ride too...Took a solid beating for sure. Look for the vid.. I freaked when Tareq took it into the flowers and POOF.. there was flower dust!! I digress..
I'm really looking forward to some more detailed inspection and videos...
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Klaus is right...when you add up the package, the kit is about what, 30% of the total? So, say, $2700 USD versus $2900 USD...there's more variation in that by far associated with ESC and servo selection. Of course, who'd build a Goblin 700 with less than pretty high choices for everything. Sure would love to have seen it at IRCHA. I heard one was there, but if it was, I missed it.

The Diablos on the other hand were there in fine form for sure! Wicked indeed!

I hope SAB is successful with this new bird. The selection of incredible helis is getting broader all the time, and they're all practically excellent.
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Dual belt as well I'm told?
First stage belt, second stage gear and tail belt with some bigger / higher gears.
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I liked the flights with Bert and Tareq, BUT that is not proving the heli can hold up over time with a few flight videos, almost anything can look good after a flight, but on closer inspection you could see other wise.

My thing was the geometry, I like everything else, and Klaus mentioned servo flex vertically not sure how you would solve that but im sure it could be solved, what motor do you plan on running.
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I don't know the exact ratios which will be possible. If it doesn't have a much wider range my 4535 which currently runs in my e720 will get a new home in a Goblin. Otherwise I'll go for 14 or 16s...
About maintenance and so on... that's one of the questions which will be answered over time. I really don't think that there's a machine which doesn't need maintenance within a few flights if it's flown as hard as Tareq A. does. Anyway, we'll see it within the next half year.
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What esc do you run with the 4535
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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In my TDR I used a HeliJive and now in the e720 I have a PowerJive 120HV. Allways with KSA enabled. My first HeliJive died after a commutation error on day 5.
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I felt lack of power when using KSA
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I also heard from other that current went down from ~300 to ~200 - 220... I can't say that this happened on my. Maybe I/P+ would help?
The only thing I'm missing with the Jive is the aggressiveness like on my VBar / Fusion Hawk combo... but at the end it doesn't really matter, flight time already is down to 3:30 - 3:40 with 1800rpm... I maybe should stop flying full pitch all the time
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