Scorpion 4525LE Ultimate - HeliFreak
Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > Henseleit


Henseleit Henseleit Helicopters


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-21-2012, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,333
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Argentina
Default Scorpion 4525LE Ultimate

So they finally decided to go with a YY winding!!!

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact....rVvtMtsuUjw%3D
__________________
Marcos

Banshee #27, 2x TDR, Diabolo, Logo 690SX, Raptor E700, JR Sylphide E12 EX Super Gracy, Voodoo 600, Voodoo 400, Logo 550SE, Logo 400SE, JR Forza 450. Mikado Vcontrol.
marcosp is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-21-2012, 04:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 674
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England
Default

Oooow, perhaps I should not sell my spare Helijive now!
__________________
TDRx2, Synergy N7/E7se/N5cTT, Align 450L/550/700e/700n, Gaui NX7/NX4, , Goblin 700/Black Nitro, Futaba 18MZ/ V-Control All on V-Bar's and S-Bus. #0095
rctintin is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2012, 05:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,900
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: West Chester, PA, USA
Default

Done, ordered and i am ready now to order the Diabolo for this motor
__________________
_____________
abanihani is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2012, 05:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: San Jose, CA
Default

in the text of that page it says that it has a 9 turn delta.. so i think the spec is wrong. .do we know what the actual wind is? like a 5+4 or something?
spdntckt is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2012, 05:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 674
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England
Default

I noticed that, but guessed that was the original specs for the first 4525LE
__________________
TDRx2, Synergy N7/E7se/N5cTT, Align 450L/550/700e/700n, Gaui NX7/NX4, , Goblin 700/Black Nitro, Futaba 18MZ/ V-Control All on V-Bar's and S-Bus. #0095
rctintin is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2012, 07:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,900
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: West Chester, PA, USA
Default

so did I make a mistake by ordering this one would it work with helijive
__________________
_____________
abanihani is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2012, 07:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 674
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England
Default

I read it that there will be no more 4525LE Delta wound motors. If you place an order now, or on a back order, you will get the new YY wound motor.

This should be fine with the HeliJive, as the 4530 and 4535 LE's are YY, and run fine on the Kon.
__________________
TDRx2, Synergy N7/E7se/N5cTT, Align 450L/550/700e/700n, Gaui NX7/NX4, , Goblin 700/Black Nitro, Futaba 18MZ/ V-Control All on V-Bar's and S-Bus. #0095
rctintin is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2012, 08:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,900
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: West Chester, PA, USA
Default

so my understanding it is more powerful than pyro 520, they both cost the same. I may try it on a second TDR kit if I decided to build that one, I am also thinking of Diabolo too, can't really make up my mind.
__________________
_____________
abanihani is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2012, 09:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,134
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Oslo, Norway
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by abanihani View Post
so my understanding it is more powerful than pyro 520, they both cost the same. I may try it on a second TDR kit if I decided to build that one, I am also thinking of Diabolo too, can't really make up my mind.
The Diabolo is a better choice for powerful LE motors. It has much more bracing than TDR, it is made to handle more power.

Diabolo build thread with good pics:

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=382529
__________________
minicopter Diabolo, Henseleit TDR, X50e, X50n, Raptor 50
Futaba 2.4 GHz
DT75 is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 12:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Port Elizabeth South Africa
Default

Next up let's hope they do a 4035 yy will have more power and better for likes of the tdr
Stolla is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 12:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 2,954
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: JP
Default

Will the YY work with the Kontronik Jive 120 for 3D flight?

I would like to have a larger motor for XFC.

The current 4525 will shut down with the Jive 120, im not intrested in changing ESC just for this motor.
__________________
(・ω・`) ギルティクラウン
Blink 182 is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 05:00 AM   #12 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 31
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austria
Default

In a word, yes.

YY terminated Scorp motors run very very well on Kontronik Jives, no matter whether during 3D flight or speeding.

Cheers,
Simon.
Nexus665 is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 07:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 14,056
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Qld, AUSTRALIA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 182 View Post
Will the YY work with the Kontronik Jive 120 for 3D flight?

I would like to have a larger motor for XFC.

The current 4525 will shut down with the Jive 120, im not intrested in changing ESC just for this motor.
Not always. I run 4525s on my TDR and JOker3 with Jive 120 - never had a shut down.
__________________
John
Mercuriell is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 12:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Port Elizabeth South Africa
Default

Thing is with yy no need to run ksa and yes while you can get away with running the d non ksa etc, flying hard on a warm day you run very big risk of failure, very well documented.
Stolla is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 02:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,900
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: West Chester, PA, USA
Default

Is that because the helijive 120 is not enough amperage wise or it is a thermal shutdown, if it was the later do you think the soon to come Kosmic 160A will help?
__________________
_____________
abanihani is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 02:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Default

Possible issue with low resistance motor, it is not temp or amperage problem.
Basically the Jive could "loose timing" so it stops working correctly in flight with possible damage for components inside Jive.
__________________
- TDR #2, Hacker Turnado, YGE 160HV, MKS HBL950/980 (JR MP82S=crap), HV2BEC mini (Quasar died), Vbar NEO, 16S Revolectrix 3200mAh, Radix V2, EDGE 105mm, Jeti DS14
- TDR #1 sold (standard setup, 700+ flights)
- HPI e-Firestorm FLUX + DX3S
jointer is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 03:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,900
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: West Chester, PA, USA
Default

The IR of this motor is very close to my pyro 520 black edition, I would not think Kontronik will miss something like that, I started worrying now I will have the same problem as the black edition has low resistant wiring
__________________
_____________
abanihani is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 03:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Richmond Va USA
Default I doubt very seriously that your k motor will have problems with a k jive.

My power jive worked great with my pyro and my 4525le. You will be fine.
__________________
TDR, Srimok N x 2, Banshee 31, Dune!
jhunter is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 04:41 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 674
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England
Default

I understand the PowerJives are OK with the 4525LE, in fact I know 2 people running that combo with no problem.

The problem as I know it is the HeliJive with the 4525LE. Something to do with low IR delta wind motors and back EMF popping a diode in the HJ.
__________________
TDRx2, Synergy N7/E7se/N5cTT, Align 450L/550/700e/700n, Gaui NX7/NX4, , Goblin 700/Black Nitro, Futaba 18MZ/ V-Control All on V-Bar's and S-Bus. #0095
rctintin is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-22-2012, 05:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Default

That is new for me, it is only HeliJive problem, not PowerJive??
I thought it does not matter.
I have 4525LE in a box over a year and i do not want to use it with any Jive (and possibly loose a heli) so i save it for new build with YGE (probably).
__________________
- TDR #2, Hacker Turnado, YGE 160HV, MKS HBL950/980 (JR MP82S=crap), HV2BEC mini (Quasar died), Vbar NEO, 16S Revolectrix 3200mAh, Radix V2, EDGE 105mm, Jeti DS14
- TDR #1 sold (standard setup, 700+ flights)
- HPI e-Firestorm FLUX + DX3S
jointer is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply




Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the HeliFreak forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your REAL and WORKING email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself. Use a real email address or you will not be granted access to the site. Thank you.
Email Address:
Location
Where do you live? ie: Country, State, City or General Geographic Location please.
Name and Lastname
Enter name and last name here. (This information is not shown to the general public. Optional)
Helicopter #1
Enter Helicopter #1 type and equipment.
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)
Helicopter #2
Enter Helicopter #2 type and equipment.
Helicopter #3
Enter Helicopter #3 type and equipment.
Helicopter #4
Enter Helicopter #4 type and equipment.

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright © Website Acquisitions Inc. All rights reserved.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1