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Old 05-11-2013, 11:33 PM   #1061 (permalink)
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I dyed the fins & tail blades orange. came out great. the skids would not take to the dye so ILL get some orange 500 skids. but it really look good if you want to save on parts this is a very easy fix $4.
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I'm sure the Lynx works great but why bother when the stock motor mount seems virtually indestructible and can even accomodate 14T pinions without ever causing a motor or main gear issue.

I've run 10, 12, 13 and 14T pinions all without a single issue. I've been using my 14T one for the past 8 months.
The higher the pinion gear, the quicker you'll burn out out your motor.
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I run 3650rpm and I've had no issues for hundreds of flights. Why would this cause me problems? It's been 100% reliable.

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The higher the pinion gear, the quicker you'll burn out out your motor.
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:37 AM   #1063 (permalink)
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14T??? Doesn't it bog a lot? Or do you use an ESC with governor?

Flight times?
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I'm thinking about going back to 13T as I can get a bit of bog in max collective hurricanes etc but it's super punchy and powerful.

It's 6S with the 595w cont (peak is prob around 800watts) 2010 motor...yeah gov at 3650 for the whole flight.

It absolutely rips for a 450...prob the most powerful power to weight 450 you can build I'd guess.

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14T??? Doesn't it bog a lot? Or do you use an ESC with governor?

Flight times?
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I'm thinking about going back to 13T as I can get a bit of bog in max collective hurricanes etc but it's super punchy and powerful.

It's 6S with the 595w cont (peak is prob around 800watts) 2010 motor...yeah gov at 3650 for the whole flight.

It absolutely rips for a 450...prob the most powerful power to weight 450 you can build I'd guess.
Sounds fun!
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:24 AM   #1066 (permalink)
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I'm sure the Lynx works great but why bother when the stock motor mount seems virtually indestructible and can even accomodate 14T pinions without ever causing a motor or main gear issue.
Agreed. I only got it because I had a problem with the original motor mount screw frozen into the motor. I destroyed the screw removing it with a Dremmel and slotted screwdriver, So had to buy a new motor mount and screws anyway. I do like the heat sink slots and lighter weight.


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Old 05-12-2013, 12:07 PM   #1067 (permalink)
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How many flights are you guys getting from the stock motor before it dies?

Sorry to be off-topic.

I am planning on flying today - it's beautiful outside.
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How many flights are you guys getting from the stock motor before it dies?

Sorry to be off-topic.

I am planning on flying today - it's beautiful outside.
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread...98#post4673198


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Much obliged - thanks!
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Another good thread on motor failure
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread...08#post3829908


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Another good thread on motor failure
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread...08#post3829908


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Okay - now I'm concerned.

I was planning on flying today, but looking out the front porch today, it looks like the wind is blowing too fast for my skill set. Someone's looking out for me . . . . Or a bunch of powers beyond my control.

Thanks again.

I'll pull the motor and do it. Stay tuned guys!
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:08 AM   #1072 (permalink)
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Finished rebuilding E450 powered bird that encountered ground rather very hard. Determined when I hit TH I was way too close to ground...the main gear had lost nearly 70% of it's teeth...and I broke my first 1way ever..had a time getting main shaft out, 1way split. Also the feathering shaft was the most malformed yet..almost s shaped with a twist..took a bit to get it out.

My other 450x has been flying unscathed, despite being abused mores than usual..trying new things and improving old stuff..a bit closer to the ground.

Anyway, today was breezy so I thought...why not, and put the Yep45 esc in and went through the beast setup again. Was considering using the CC50 for the logging, but decided the yep was lighter and would fit inside the frame...loosening the frame screws to get the yep in place. Besides, this X gets beat the hardest ( most risk) so if I really toast it, the yep is cheaper than the CC ice50...

I hate to admit it, but I doubt one of my 4503Ds will ever fly again...I robbed it blind of parts..oh well, I prefer the FBL birds moreso everyday. Hope the temps get better, were getting a bit of cold air after some great flying weather...other than wind.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:43 AM   #1073 (permalink)
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Got to do some great flying with my 450X yesterday!

Using MSK DS470 cyclics and DS480 tail. Plus iKON controller.

Must say it works very well! Even in heavy gusty winds. Just dialed down the gain a little to stop some tail shaking, flew like a charm after that!

And this heli is so powerful and nimble, just love it! With the Lynx slant gear it's very quiet too.

Now, the iKON has a "self level" function, that can be used as a rescue mode. It works very well. But mine banked a little to the right, and a little backwards. Re-connected it to the PC and think I've found the cause. Under advanced the level was set to 3 degrees + on aileron and 3 degrees + on elevator. Sat them manually to 0 degrees, I'm pretty sure that should make it perfect.

Also want to show how vibe resistant this iKON is! Look at this:


I had a small mishap earlier in the day, a small tip over. Which only bent the spindle shaft, no other damage. But just for the hell of it I tried to fly with it... and what do you know - the iKON flew stable even if the heli was shaking like crazy! I'm willing to bet a beer or two the BX would do the tipover with that much vibes

Don't get me wrong, the BX is great stuff too! And god value for money! Just wish they'd come out with a selv level or rescue mode too!
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Got to do some great flying with my 450X yesterday!

Using MSK DS470 cyclics and DS480 tail. Plus iKON controller.

Must say it works very well! Even in heavy gusty winds. Just dialed down the gain a little to stop some tail shaking, flew like a charm after that!

And this heli is so powerful and nimble, just love it! With the Lynx slant gear it's very quiet too.

Now, the iKON has a "self level" function, that can be used as a rescue mode. It works very well. But mine banked a little to the right, and a little backwards. Re-connected it to the PC and think I've found the cause. Under advanced the level was set to 3 degrees + on aileron and 3 degrees + on elevator. Sat them manually to 0 degrees, I'm pretty sure that should make it perfect.

Also want to show how vibe resistant this iKON is! Look at this:


I had a small mishap earlier in the day, a small tip over. Which only bent the spindle shaft, no other damage. But just for the hell of it I tried to fly with it... and what do you know - the iKON flew stable even if the heli was shaking like crazy! I'm willing to bet a beer or two the BX would do the tipover with that much vibes

Don't get me wrong, the BX is great stuff too! And god value for money! Just wish they'd come out with a selv level or rescue mode too!
In my experience, it's more about the man behind the sticks than it is with high-tech gadgets.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:08 AM   #1075 (permalink)
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In my experience, it's more about the man behind the sticks than it is with high-tech gadgets.
True but in this case the man behind the sticks messes up a bit too often! So he needs some artificial intelligence...
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Got to do some great flying with my 450X yesterday!

Using MSK DS470 cyclics and DS480 tail. Plus iKON controller.

Must say it works very well! Even in heavy gusty winds. Just dialed down the gain a little to stop some tail shaking, flew like a charm after that!

And this heli is so powerful and nimble, just love it! With the Lynx slant gear it's very quiet too.

Now, the iKON has a "self level" function, that can be used as a rescue mode. It works very well. But mine banked a little to the right, and a little backwards. Re-connected it to the PC and think I've found the cause. Under advanced the level was set to 3 degrees + on aileron and 3 degrees + on elevator. Sat them manually to 0 degrees, I'm pretty sure that should make it perfect.

Also want to show how vibe resistant this iKON is! Look at this:


I had a small mishap earlier in the day, a small tip over. Which only bent the spindle shaft, no other damage. But just for the hell of it I tried to fly with it... and what do you know - the iKON flew stable even if the heli was shaking like crazy! I'm willing to bet a beer or two the BX would do the tipover with that much vibes

Don't get me wrong, the BX is great stuff too! And god value for money! Just wish they'd come out with a selv level or rescue mode too!
Love my ikon, very vibe resistant... Until you flip into SL, then u better be ready.
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Love my ikon, very vibe resistant... Until you flip into SL, then u better be ready.
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SL?
Guessing here - Self-Leveling?
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Guessing here - Self-Leveling?
Correct!

If you loose your orientation you can hit a switch and the heli levels itself (to right side up) in a split second. You only need to manage the collective.
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Worked on another proto type lid for the Bx (pics in my "And it starts" thread.
Parts coming in later today so I'll be finishing my rebuilding and upgrading to A3020 cyclic servo's.
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