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Old 10-03-2012, 09:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well it's October now so is there any new info on when either ones of these will be available? Or where to get them?
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I was hoping the new Black model was going to use the new gyros that are impervious to vibes. It seems that will not be the case
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Charlie the gyro sensors will be vibe resistant, but the accelerometers cannot be with existing technology.

I've heard there will be good news regarding these units very very soon.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Charlie the gyro sensors will be vibe resistant, but the accelerometers cannot be with existing technology.

I've heard there will be good news regarding these units very very soon.
As usual still nothing definitive been hearing soon for what seems like for ever now.
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I just want to know how much it will cost, so I know how much money to put in the "Wife doesn't know" fund.
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I just want to know how much it will cost, so I know how much money to put in the "Wife doesn't know" fund.
I'm in the same boat

Hoping we hear news soon as well.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm also waiting for the Black One.
Flying the Blue One right now in the Beam but soon the Diabolo will land.
And its definitly getting a self level option.
So either Red or Black is on the shopping list.

OT : Anyone with Blue experience who is flying Red now and care to share what got better... ?
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well it's October now so is there any new info on when either ones of these will be available? Or where to get them?
Itís going to be winter in Canada any day now so we probably wonít see much development until next spring. Maybe next summer for the GPS.

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Old 10-03-2012, 03:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Itís going to be winter in Canada any day now so we probably wonít see much development until next spring. Maybe next summer for the GPS.

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No, this is definitely not what I've heard.
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=] +1 remote testing is continuous....
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I will gladly Beta test one!!
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I will gladly Beta test one!!
=] worth mailing SK, not sure what latitudes they need?
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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First retail prices show that the 720 "BE" costs 50 EUR more than regular 720 but not on stock of course

http://www.osmot.net/skookum-robotic...p-10695-4.html
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Charlie the gyro sensors will be vibe resistant, but the accelerometers cannot be with existing technology.

I've heard there will be good news regarding these units very very soon.
That's good to know. Did you read this somewhere?

I've seen these new vibe resistant mems gyros on youtube and they dont see vibes at all. I cant imagine how perfectly stable a FBL can make a heli when it doesnt have to deal with all the false signals being sent from the gyros.
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That's good to know. Did you read this somewhere?

I've seen these new vibe resistant mems gyros on youtube and they dont see vibes at all. I cant imagine how perfectly stable a FBL can make a heli when it doesnt have to deal with all the false signals being sent from the gyros.
Not that there are vibration issues with the existing SK-720's gyros. These things work on Gassers just fine. (don't bother trying to use self-leveling though!)

All the vibration talk relates to the accelerometers, which have nothing to do with standard FBL operation. They're used for flight logs, self-leveling and soon the SK-GPS attachment.

As for making accelerometers more vibration resistant, the issue is an accelerometer measures accelerations, and guess what vibrations are? All you can do is make accelerometers more accurate which will allow you to write better software to filter vibrations out of the feed. I'm more hoping the black SK-720 has accelerometers that drift less with temperature shifts. Maybe they should add a pair of accelerometers just for redundancy purposes should one continually drift so bad in flight. Even if both drift, the drift should be different enough while providing some duplicate movement, so you could perhaps cancel the drifting out.
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That's good to know. Did you read this somewhere?

I've seen these new vibe resistant mems gyros on youtube and they dont see vibes at all. I cant imagine how perfectly stable a FBL can make a heli when it doesnt have to deal with all the false signals being sent from the gyros.
Yes, it's been discussed to death on here over the past few months. The newer mems gyros are more resistant but the 720 uses the accelerometers for the SL - that's where the senstivity lies.

I use a 720 on my nitro - hard mounted. SL doesn't work but the heli flies very well and tracks perfectly. This is much better than when it had a soft mounted SK720. With the soft mount the vibes were filtered and even the SL worked; but the heli didn't feel crisp at all. I'll be mounting a 540 on the nitro in the near future, so will post how it compares.
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ok, just to verify, it's the yet to be released SK that will use the new type of gyros?

IS it using these ones?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ASIEKHi-0[/ame]
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:39 AM   #19 (permalink)
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First retail prices show that the 720 "BE" costs 50 EUR more than regular 720 but not on stock of course

http://www.osmot.net/skookum-robotic...p-10695-4.html
Well by today's numbers that equates to $579. and change. Wow!!!
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Well by today's numbers that equates to $579. and change. Wow!!!
Don't forget there's 20% VAT included in the Euro pricing.
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