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![]() I've been considering a used Quik World gasser. One of Erwins. I'm whating for the owner to return from Colarado to discuss it in more depth. I'm not even sure what model it is by name. But the price is $1300. And it looks very well built. Sorry I can't coment on more details. But would like to know more in general about your opinions of their stuff or bussiness dealings. Thank you.
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![]() Check the QWW forum on RR. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
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![]() Finless mentioned that the customer support sucks. I know first hand that Irwin can be a real #%s. I'm not far from Coppersburg where his store is. I think I'll be passing on this. Thanks.
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![]() i bought a rtf gasser from irwin traded within 1 month i got a lemon an irwin made no good on any issues, just attitude.
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![]() check out the new review on rr. I would think you may want to get a known good flying heli and i dont think qww can live up to that, but read for your self.
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![]() Quick gassers fly fine if they are built properly. I have over 70 hours on a OD 26 without one mechanical failure. Unfortunately your posters on here have an issue with Irwin, not the heli. Trocks so called "lemon" had flown several hours before he recieved it without issue. No one listens to the posts from the above guys on RR anymore concerning Quicks....so they go and post here.
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![]() Well over the last several months I have been to several of the largest heli events in the USA. I can say I have not seen a Quick/QWW heli at any of them. Just held an event that had 175 registered pilots. I walked the flightline and pit area several times over the three days. I never saw any Quick/QWW helis that were being flown. If someone even had one there it was not sitting out in the open. Don't know what the problem is with them, but they are not very popular from what I have seen. Even at IRCHA Jamboree every year, the only Quick/QWW helis I have seen is the ones that HHI has in there booth.
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![]() but then again shuttle pile doesnt ever have problem in the open, but he does talk to irwin every day so will he ever have a problem ? probally not so cant count on his advice but from what i ve seen they cant keep good people there which shows the biggest problem there not honest ?? so give them a shot they are giving kit out and if u like them buy it if not send them back its called the pepsi challange its all over rr ? I wont be tring any thing else i ll take my chances on a other guy like rjx and mikado. my luck has seemed to change when I left qww and went to align & mikado so I will stick with them. Got $ down for the trex700, my 600n is flyin great 50+ flight not even a screw loose. rex 500 is on it 20th fligh, not a glitch. and hopefully I will stop being lazy and setup and fly the logo this weekend.
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![]() Well I ended up buying the Gasher Pro used for $1000 back towards the beginning of december. The owner came down from $1300. It has a 611 gyro on it, 4 9252s (one for the throttle), QWWs labeled 700mm SABs, Zenoas 265, Zimmerman pipe. So I figured it might be worth it regardless of whatever might show up. The owner and some of those who know him said the motor hasn't even been broken in yet. I went thru everything and reset the setup. It has the upgrade tail box with belt drive. The standard box someone said had some issues. I haven't seen one up close in detail. The head is limited to +-10 degree do to linkage binding. That's were I set it. There's a reduction lever between the flybar and mixing lever linkage. Everything seems very robust on this machine. 3mm CF frame sides. Bearing holders and drive gears are all quite nice and seem up to the job. I've just put a Fromeco Sahara regulator, AR7000, 2600ma Fromeco LiIon in. Yesterday I fired it up for the first time. Some carborator issues. I took the carb apart, it looks very new. I resealed the head intake gaskets and tightened things down better there. I'll be putting one of those aluminum units in place of the plastic collar. After simplifying the fuel hoses to reduce retrictions I fired it up again this evening. It ran much better. There's something to be said about those aluminum intake header collars. It was dark outside so I didn't get to fly more than a hover. Tomarrow I'll be tweeking it up more thurouly. If anything I can tell at the moment, the head seems to have more moving parts then I would like. Untill I get it in the air more.
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![]() Is this the rotor head you have on it?
http://www.ewtech.com/Merchant2/merc...Code=HHIEX1000 If that is the head. that is a copy of a rotor head that Ted Schoonard of Miniature Aircraft designed back in the early 90's. I used the MA rotor head ( 0840) for several years. If that is the head your using above in the link. You should be able to get more than 10 to 10 on the pitch. But also that head was designed for contest flying. So if HHI copied it verbatim, it should have about 3 degs on coning angle in the blades . David |
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![]() "my experience sofar. Irwin is odd but he's been nice to me sofar...sofar...I'll keep the experience posting as it goes"
Good luck with that, For ur sake I hope it continues but chances are it wont. The head if it is silver is their newer head. If i know the heli right it has heavy duty linkage on the head ? silver ball joint ? Any how the heads are very simular the one linked and the silver body, they are both a dual spindle head ![]() edit added link to newest review, pg5 says it all in the conclusion > http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t414350p1/ |
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Here is an example of what I am talking about. Look at the bell mixer and the bolt going thru it. You will notice there is a spacer between the two bearings and then a small washer against the head of the bolt. Then a small washer between the mounting surface and the bearing. http://www.ronlund.com/images/plans/xlse/head.jpg David |
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![]() Well anyway. He! He! O ya!...2 hardware based insidences today. Just hovering several teeth on the main gear blew out. I had the mesh set fine. Nothing but the most minute touch of play to the pinion. I've set my 600 and sevceral other helis up. I know how to set main gear mesh. The motor is running decently and only had some adjustments to do with the high rpm needle. Nothing much in the way of eratic power there. So I took it to the park (not intending to do anything more then a coupla climouts
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![]() Well folks. I've gotten the parts to put it back together. Apparently a screw was coming loose in one of clutch shoes causing the clutch drum to hange up and eventually took some teeth out of the main gear. Not in an emediately obvious way. It migrated out as it hovered. When I got this heli I went thru everything except (Yes that's right folks. My mistake) the motor and clutch. I did take the crab off and resealed the intake collar better. But liquid fuel systems are new to me and I just didn't think to take the clutch apart..,Oh Well! Erwin was nice. As long as his interest in customer support doesn't wayne with me, I won't be bad mouthing him or his products. I didn't buy this from him, but he sold it to somebody before and made money on it. Now I have it. So I hope he continues to be helpfull. The pitch range issue in the head is somewhat unresolved. David?...Erwin reads these post and brought up a clame that the head design in the link you posted was designed by him before MA was in business. He said 25 years ago. I've got too many things to do to be investigating any of it. Just relaying his comment that he himself brought up. He seems to spend alot of talk on his experience and expertice in a defensive way. I don't really know how much of that's from bad press or self righteous based justifications in his past dealings with others. I'll be only telling it like i see it directly based on experience. Instead of going with the flow of others oppinions. I will keep my eyes and ears open. Thanks all. Let ya know how it goes when I get enought time to do the rebuild.
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HHI has been in business since 1984, and specializes in the production of radio control MAUSA has been in business since the late 70's The X-Cell 60 was on the market in 1984 Before they released the XL 60 , MA distributed Schuter helicopters here in the USA for several years. MA was selling the 0840 head about 4 years before HHI. I was flying the MA rotor head on an XL Pro a couple of years before HHI even was selling a copy of it. That is pretty much the way I remember it. Of course Ted Schoonard might remember it the same way. Since he is the original designer of the 0840 rotor head. David |
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![]() I hear ya..He, He..It's too bad Erwin doesn't chime in here. It would be interesting to see how the debate would evolve. My main consern here is to see this heli flying and safe (as safe as a helicopter can be). And flying like it should. The head on my machine is what they call the pro version. That link refers to there sport version I believe. I'll be giving it a chance before desiding to change it (the head). Thanks again.
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