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Old 01-16-2013, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Note how the battery is installed with the wires facing in, this is very important when setting up your warp 360 cog



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Old 01-16-2013, 06:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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+1, my Warp balances perfectly with the pretty lightweight Thor 1350mAh pack and I have the wires/connectors facing backwards as described in the video. Also +1 for the Edge blades
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I call shenanigans with a Turnigy 1300 mA battery which is at 224 g I still need to add a 42 g 2s rx battery up front to balance. That battery looked big. What's it weigh?
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No games,its legit....that battery weighs 238 grams and it didn't have a connector on it also the scorpion is heavier then the compass motor..I don't have access to turnigy batteries but your welcome to send one over and we will see if we can get it to balance

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Cool......thanks for the video. I'm about to throw those exact blades on my heli (btw, thanks for getting them in the mail so quickly, Mike, I got them today), and will recheck CG being as you say they are a tad lighter. I'm also anxious to fly the heli with the Edge tail blades.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I call shenanigans with a Turnigy 1300 mA battery which is at 224 g I still need to add a 42 g 2s rx battery up front to balance. That battery looked big. What's it weigh?
I'll post a vid with the turnigy pack tonight. No tricks or magic.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Nicely done, Mike & Dave!

+1 on the Edge 60mm tail blades ... I'm running them on mine and the tail is rock solid @ 50% tail gain in my SK720.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Nice video Dave! Yes my warp balances as well and im running the gens ace 1200Mah 40C packs, and those only weigh 210g. I think I may have to order some edge tail blades to try.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i will add i didnt have the chinese weights on my tail. my ESC is also sticking out the front about an inch as well. its also important to make sure your leads are facing towards the frame. if they are the other way they will hit the canopy and not let you move the battery forward enough.
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Very nice video from our friends at Nankin Hobby...

I hadn't thought to place my ESC forward any further than the front of the frames, but With the current Thor 1350's, as they are "stubby", may not need to do that.
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Dave and mike thanks for the help tonight. My warp balances out good with the pulse batts.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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When I first viewed, seeing the longer battery made me think it was a larger, heavier pack, but it's not. Since it's the Pulse 1350, it's about the same weight as the others we've been discussing in the 1300-1350 range. My Thor 1350's weigh 225g on my scale. In effect, there is less battery extending forward to achieve the same balance as in Dave's machine. I could also see that a single strap and the pack near the nose, it wouldn't go anywhere either. I also noted the advantage of having the battery discharge leads oriented to the rear to allow the pack to get closer to the nose if needed.

The Pulse battery does have more velcro surface contact area...LOL
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't get it. How is it possible to balance this heli? without larger packs or more weight? Here is a video of mine with everything as far forward as possible with 62 mm cf blades and a battery at 224g.
What am I doing wrong/ differently? my heli has 1300 mah nanotech 45/90c 6s at 224 g, YGE60, turnigy 306g-hv servos all around, ar7200bx and stock motor/pinion. This comes in at a hair under 1kg. I need to add a 42g 2s lipo in the front to balance bringing me to approx. 1038g which is super heavy for a 450. Anyone see what I'm doing wrong?
[ame]http://youtu.be/hpaR6_0JQmg[/ame]
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I don't get it. How is it possible to balance this heli? without larger packs or more weight? Here is a video of mine with everything as far forward as possible with 62 mm cf blades and a battery at 224g.

http://youtu.be/hpaR6_0JQmg
My Warp balances perfectly with basically the same configuration, but I have a 29g WR super mini BEC in the front as well. Maybe that's what making the difference, my HC-3SX is spec:ed at exactly the same weight as the AR7200BX.

What's the weight of your ESC? I have a Koby 40 that weighs in at 42g.

I'm just trying to see if the difference is as simple as the different weight in electronics.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
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we had edge 60mm tails as well not 62mm also i think moving that beastx foward could help as well...we had room to spare in the nose using the pulse battery.

it does say in the manual that compass recommends batteries weighing no less then 230g, i am thinking 235g should be the minimum

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What are the overall weights of your birds that are balancing with the same size (or close) batteries? It seems theres no way but to add the Rx battery(don't need it bec works excellent on the YGE) or bigger flight batteries. I was hoping to stay under a kilo. Oh well, It's flying pretty good like this and more stable with the extra weight.
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Appreciate the video. But why let the tail drop from vertical?

After watching the original video in this thread, I rechecked my balance holding the heli sideways (hadn't done that before) and it was a bit tail heavy. All I had to do was move my battery forward about 1/2 inch to get it to balance "properly".

I'm using Chrome 1300mAh 35C batteries with Dean's connectors. My Koby 40 is forward to the point where the Caps are protruding from under the tray. I'm using one Compass velcro strap. I also have a couple of strips of extreme tape in the canopy to prevent chafing of any wires that might rub up against it.

When I checked the balance using the recommended method, I did not let the tail fall like you did. I checked it on both sides as well. I have Edge 60mm tail blades on it with the Chinese weights. I don't know.
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Thought It would help to show how far out of balance it is without the Rx pack. it takes a bit of weight to get it to fall from near vertical Due to the direction of the force. If you hold it out straight and it slowly rotates that's barely off. If you have it almost vertical and it starts rotating you know you're way tail heavy or vice versa. I should have held it a bit higher then you could see after it swinging down so fast it stops before it gets horizontal again which is less than a 1/4 rotation from bottom.
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do you have any more room to move your battery forward? with the brick stile packs they are pretty tight against my canopy for proper balancing, also what tail blades are you running?
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