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Old 05-23-2013, 12:17 PM   #221 (permalink)
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One more question Rich, I know you rebuilt several times and was wondering on your main shaft how many shims do you have on the shaft above the upper bearing?
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Rich, are you running the A3020s all the way around?
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One more question Rich, I know you rebuilt several times and was wondering on your main shaft how many shims do you have on the shaft above the upper bearing?
Mine came with 2 shims (there so thin I have to rub them between fingers to make sure both are there) , so I have been sticking with that as long as there's no binding. So far there's been non.

I run the A3020 on cyclic only, tail is factory. Never had a issue or even had to replace gears. So until I have issues with it I'll keep the factory one there. The 2 horns have to be trimmed down to clear canopy mounts but still plenty of horn there for strength for the ball. I run mine on the elevator different than others so I get a straight push pull, not at a angle.

I reversed my 6V mod and step down and run stock now, but I don't do any hard 3D or stick banging. So far just flips, rolls, FFF pyro's and stationary pyro's.

I also dropped down to 10.5 +- on pitch for less strain on servo's. For my style flying that enough.
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On the A3020 horns, I had to by hand/fingers drill the horn holes out a little but only enough to thread the balls on/threw. The LocTited Jesus bolt nuts all the way around are just a safety measure.

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I know you rebuilt several times
NOT proud of this. BUT the up side is I'm really learning my bird inside and out and tricks to speed up a rebuild with having no vibs.
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NOT proud of this. BUT the up side is I'm really learning my bird inside and out and tricks to speed up a rebuild with having no vibs.
Thats why your the man to ask at this point in time
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I look at it this way also.

Once I get great at setting up, flying and such. I take a bad crash at field around 1pm? If I have all the parts with me, I will be were I could do a rebuild on site and fly again before loosing light.
Stock Car pit crew won't have crap on me.
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I look at it this way also.

Once I get great at setting up, flying and such. I take a bad crash at field around 1pm? If I have all the parts with me, I will be were I could do a rebuild on site and fly again before loosing light.
Stock Car pit crew won't have crap on me.
Been there done that with my 130s.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:31 PM   #228 (permalink)
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I made a Magazine. I know its not 450X related but how cool.

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Old 05-23-2013, 01:33 PM   #229 (permalink)
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Sorry, Keeping my mind busy until my 8 gets here and they just sent this to me.
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BADASS
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Merry Christmas to me.

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Sweet. You'll like it. I only have the dx7s but the stick motion is much smoother than the dx6i. Gotta love bearings
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:36 PM   #234 (permalink)
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Now that you have a nice TX for your 450X, take full advantage of it.

1. Use its throttle activated timer start/stop feature, it's very helpful.

2. Program and use three D/R and Expo switch positions.

3. Activate and use "Active Gyro Trim" feature to help optimize gyro gain for each headspeed without repeately landing to adjust gyro gain on the TX. The left trimmer button allow adjustment in mid-air, which saves a lot of time.

4. Configure three sets of throttle/pitch curves (Flight modes); Normal, FM1 and FM2.

5. Verify TH sends a throttle signal matching throttle stick down in normal mode to prevent confusing the ESC.

6. Disable the TX's trim buttons by setting "trim step size" to 0.

7. Adjusting the length of the DX8's sticks helps it fit your hands and stick grip style (pinch vs. thumb).
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Now that you have a nice TX for your 450X, take full advantage of it.
1. Use its throttle activated timer start/stop feature, it's very helpful.
Most definitely

2. Program and use three D/R and Expo switch positions.
The plan

3. Activate and use "Active Gyro Trim" feature to help optimize gyro gain for each headspeed without repeately landing to adjust gyro gain on the TX. The left trimmer button allow adjustment in mid-air, which saves a lot of time.
Great tip thanks

4. Configure three sets of throttle/pitch curves (Flight modes); Normal, FM1 and FM2.
The plan

5. Verify TH sends a throttle signal matching throttle stick down in normal mode to prevent confusing the ESC.
Great tip vrs "assuming"

6. Disable the TX's trim buttons by setting "trim step size" to 0.
The plan

7. Adjusting the length of the DX8's sticks helps it fit your hands and stick grip style (pinch vs. thumb).
Done

Did what I could I don't have 10 hrs for the full charge tonight so I'll put it on first thing in the morning.

OH you forgot one. Adjust neck strap vrs holding and dropping it. Done.

Then bind it to the bird. I used the 6i tonight yet for finishing my rebuild. All done. Nailed all Blue light again, smooth as butter. Didn't even have to adjust the swash level. It was level already. 1 step done fast. lol
Mellow look this time.


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Now that you have a nice TX for your 450X, take full advantage of it.

1. Use its throttle activated timer start/stop feature, it's very helpful.

2. Program and use three D/R and Expo switch positions.

3. Activate and use "Active Gyro Trim" feature to help optimize gyro gain for each headspeed without repeately landing to adjust gyro gain on the TX. The left trimmer button allow adjustment in mid-air, which saves a lot of time.

4. Configure three sets of throttle/pitch curves (Flight modes); Normal, FM1 and FM2.

5. Verify TH sends a throttle signal matching throttle stick down in normal mode to prevent confusing the ESC.

6. Disable the TX's trim buttons by setting "trim step size" to 0.

7. Adjusting the length of the DX8's sticks helps it fit your hands and stick grip style (pinch vs. thumb).
Rich, I hope you dont mind if I threadjack you for a second.

Lizardman, Can you elaborate EXACTLY how to set up and accomplish #3? Hopefully from start to finish. This is something I have wanted to do, but have had a difficult time trying to find a really good explanation of it. Maybe If you would please start a new thread with your explanation, so that we can all discuss it without boogering up Rich's thread. I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks.
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Rich, I hope you dont mind if I threadjack you for a second.

Lizardman, Can you elaborate EXACTLY how to set up and accomplish #3? Hopefully from start to finish. This is something I have wanted to do, but have had a difficult time trying to find a really good explanation of it. Maybe If you would please start a new thread with your explanation, so that we can all discuss it without boogering up Rich's thread. I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks.
My plan was to do a lower, stock , higher setting rate on the "Gyro" switch.
My 6i, I did 2 settings on the "Gyro" switch.
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Rich, I hope you dont mind if I threadjack you for a second.

Lizardman, Can you elaborate EXACTLY how to set up and accomplish #3? Hopefully from start to finish. This is something I have wanted to do, but have had a difficult time trying to find a really good explanation of it. Maybe If you would please start a new thread with your explanation, so that we can all discuss it without boogering up Rich's thread. I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks.
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My plan was to do a lower, stock , higher setting rate on the "Gyro" switch.
My 6i, I did 2 settings on the "Gyro" switch.
Active gyro trim helps quickly fine-tune per flight mode gyro settings. Use either the gyro switch or F-mode switch to select a specific gyro gain setting. At first, I preferred the gyro switch, but later converted to using F-mode. Either way, you're selecting gyro gain values to match headspeed, or select rate-mode while flying circuits.

To enable Active Gyro trim, hold down the roller while powering up your DX8 to access the setup menu. Within the switch menu set LTrim to Gyro, then exit setup mode. Press the roller and select gyro menu. Make sure the lower right and lower left settings are correct. One setting selects channel gyro values are sent on, the other selects which switch controls gyro gain (gyro or F-mode).

Next to the selected gyro value another value will appear between "( and ")". This second value is a "trimmed" value. For example, you might use a gyro value of "54". If the value between "(" and ")" is also 54, no trimming is active. By default all values should match; eg. 54 (54).

Now try moving the left trimmer switch just left of the DX8 logo face plate. It's just to the right of the flap/gyro switch. It functions much like the normal trim buttons. It's a momentary contact switch, self-centering, capable of moving up and down. It clicks!

What happens to the gyro value between "(" and ")" each time you click the left trimmer switch? Notice how each gyro switch selection offers a separate trim setting.

Preset gyro gain values to match throttle/pitch or gov headspeed. While flying use left trimmer button to fine tune gyro gain. It's like using the normal trim buttons.

Once you've fine tuned gyro gain values, go back in to gyro menu to update preset values to the trimmed values displayed between "(" and ")". Reset trimmed values between "(" and ")" to center on your new preset values. You may make a click or two of adjustment later.

This feature saves time, because you don't have to land to safely adjust gyro gain. You can try several gyro gain values in less than a minute. It's easy.
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:15 AM   #239 (permalink)
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Merry Christmas to me.

Grats! One upgrade I found real nice was putting in a lipo instead of the NiMH.

However, you should be aware you need a compatible lipo with balancing circuit built in - probably safest to buy Spektrum here - and some do not recommend lipos in radios for the fire risk it poses.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:42 AM   #240 (permalink)
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Rich,
well done on the magazine. That takes some dedication.
+1 on getting a lipo. They last way longer than the spectrum batteries. Hobby king sells one cheap.

Now why did you reverse the 6v esc switch???
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