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Old 05-01-2013, 01:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I thought it would be useful for people to posts the setup details for their Gasser helicopters. If everyone fills this out, it will be a great resource about what is being used and what works for the various components. Here is a template and I'll go first:

Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used): Trex 700N Helibug conversion, forward engine
Engine: Zenoa G290RC (stock I think)
Carburetor: not sure, probably stock
Clutch and clutch liner: Stock Align for both (failed liner), switching to Lynx clutch with Align liner
Pipe and muffler: RJX muffler
Main Blades: Rotortech 690
Tail Blades: Align 105
Main gear and pinion: 115T, 17T

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: AR7200BX
FBL controller: AB7200BX
Governor: Futaba GV-1
Governor sensor: still working on that
Head speed settings: shooting for 1700,1800, 1900 to start
Cyclic servos: Align DS610
Tail servo: MKS DS760
Throttle servo: JR????
RX&Servo power (battery and regulator and generator if used): LIFE Source 3000 mAh, no regulator
Battery Monitor: Volt Magic but I an getting rid of it
Power switch: JR I think
TX used: DX18

Fuel and field equipment:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: 87 Octane gas, Penzoil Marine full synthetic 32:1
Fueling system: Jersey Modeler 2.5 gallon
Starting Method (if electric, post both stater and battery): stock pull starter

Dry weight: TBD
Flying weight: TBD

Other setup details or interest:
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used)
: Trex 700N Helibug HB7-RC
Engine: TRM VX270TT
Pipe and muffler: RJX
Clutch / Liner: Lynx gas clutch / Lynx black liner
Main Blades: Edge SE 690
Tail Blades: Align 105
Main gear and pinion: 115T, 17T

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver:
V-Bar + 2x JR sat RX
FBL controller: V-Bar
Governor: V-Bar gov
Governor sensor: Stator Gator
Head speed settings: 1700, 1950, 2050
Cyclic servos: Align DS610
Tail servo: Align DS650
Throttle servo: Align DS650
RX&Servo power : Homemade generator, 5s nimh batt pack
Battery Monitor: Cheap HK monitor
Power switch: JR deluxe
TX used: JR 9503

Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio
: 97 octane Shell pump gas, Castrol 2t Full Synth. 32:1
Fueling system: 5lt gas can + Dubro gas pump
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Here is my setup.




Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used): Century Radikal G20ei CF
Engine: HWC zenoah G20ei
Pipe and muffler: Century torpedo V2
Main Blades: Rotortech 640
Tail Blades: Rotortech 95
Main gear and pinion: 90T, 14T

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: DSMX sats
FBL controller: SK540
Governor: SK540
Governor sensor: CDI sensor
Head speed settings: normal 1600, Stunt 2000
Cyclic servos: Savox 1258tg
Tail servo: Savox 1290mg
Throttle servo: Savox 1290mg
RX&Servo power (battery and regulator and generator if used): LIFE Source 2100 mAh, no regulator
Battery Monitor:
Power switch: JR Deluxe (not currently installed
TX used: DX7s
Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: 87 Octane gas, sabre professional, 50:1
Fueling system: Colman camp fuel can with a gas/desiel pump.

Other setup details or interest: Swapped it out to a fbl head and torque tube tail.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Helix G700

Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used)
: Helix G700 conversion
Engine: CY F270, 27.2cc
Pipe and muffler: Century Torpedo Slim V2
Main Blades: Align 690D
Tail Blades: Align 105
Main gear and pinion: 115T, 17T

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver:
Spektrum satellites
FBL controller: HC3sX
Governor: Futaba GV-1
Governor sensor: Stator Gator
Head speed settings: 1750,1850, 1950
Cyclic servos: Align DS615
Tail servo: Align DS655
Throttle servo: Align DS525
RX&Servo power: Home-made generator, Hyperion 2S 2100mah lifepo4
Battery Monitor: Spektrum telemetry
Power switch: Radioshack 10A mini switch (probably will not use switch in future)
TX used: DX8

Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio
: 87 Octane gas or Coleman, Penzoil Marine full synthetic
Fueling system: Six shooter, Coleman 1gal can

Dry weight: 12.6 lbs (including generator and pull-start) - 5.72kg
Fly weight: ~13.5 lbs

The Helix conversion used stock Zenoah clutch shoe & HPI bell.
Started out with DFC head, but recently swapped out to an Align V2 head because of shakes below 1700 rpm.

Pictures in post #36 here:
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread...=487699&page=2
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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to all posters, please add Dry weight & flying weight
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default helibug

Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used)
: helibug hb7
Engine: toxic 270
Pipe and muffler: hatori
Main Blades: maverick
Tail Blades: maverick
Main gear and pinion: 115T, 17T

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver:
Spektrum satellites
FBL controller: vbar silver
Governor: vbar
Governor sensor: Stator Gator
Head speed settings: 1700,1850, 2050
Cyclic servos: jr 8717s
Tail servo: jr 8900g
Throttle servo: futaba 451
RX&Servo power: scott gray reactor hvx thunder power 2700 mah
Battery Monitor:
Power switch: reactor hvx PTS
TX used: jr 11x

Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio
: 87 Octane gas amsoil sabor 32:1
Fueling system: home made

Dry weight: 12.4
Fly weight: 13 flat
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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to all posters, please add Dry weight & flying weight
great addition. I added it to the template. let me know if I have forgotten anything else that we should include.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used)
: MA Whiplash
Engine: TRM VX270TT
Pipe and muffler: Century torpedo V2
Main Blades: Mavrikk Pro 710mm
Tail Blades:
KBDD 105mm
Main gear and pinion: stock

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver:
AR7200BX
FBL controller: AB7200BX
Governor: None
Governor sensor: none
Head speed settings: 1850
Cyclic servos: Savox 1258TG
Tail servo: Savox 1290Mg
Throttle servo: Savox 0352
RX&Servo power (battery and regulator and generator if used): LIFE 2100 mAh, no regulator
Battery Monitor: None
Power switch: JR HD
TX used: JR 9503

Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio
: Coleman Camper fuel, Stihl HP full synthetic
Fueling system: Slimline 1 gal and Jersey Modeler 1 gallon
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Here is my 2 ladies,

Heli 1
Airframe Whiplash
Engine: B.H Hanson RC290 3d max
Tuned pipe B.H Hanson
Main Blades: CY 710 fbl
Tail Blades: CY 105
Gear ratio 6.89
Electrical and Electronic
Receiver: AR9100
FBL controller: helicommand
Governor: Futaba GV-1
Governor sensor: Stator Gator
Head speed settings: 1850/1950/2050
Cyclic servos: futaba BLS451
Tail servo: BLS256
Throttle servo: BLS451
RX&Servo power (battery and regulator and generator if used): LIFE Source 1100 mah with jewel generator
Power switch: JR
TX used: DX9
Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: 87 Octane gas, Pennzoil Marine full synthetic 32:1


Heli 2
Airframe Spectra g with halibug spark conversion
Engine: B.H Hanson RC290 3d max
Pipe and muffler: V2
Main Blades: CY 710
Tail Blades: CY 105
Gear ratio 7.15
Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: AR 9100
FBL controller: halicommand
Governor: Futaba GV-1
Governor sensor: Stator Gator
Head speed settings: 1750/1850/1950
Cyclic servos: futaba BLS451
Tail servo: futaba BLS256
Throttle servo: BLS451
RX&Servo power (battery and regulator and generator if used): LIFE Source 1500 with jewel generator
Power switch: JR
TX used: DX9
Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: 87 Octane gas, Pennzoil Marine full synthetic 32:1
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Current Helis & Equipment:

Miniature Aircraft 1005 Gasser with over 3000 flights since 1997
BH Hanson G26 3D Max motor
Zimmerman rear muffler
Futaba BLS 255HV cyclics
BLS256HV tail
Helicommand HC3SX
Futaba 6203SB RX
Futaba GV-1 governor with PUH stator gator
Jewel RC generator with 2700mah NiMH 5 cell battery backup
Edge 713 SE FBL blades
Head speed settings: 1700/1810/1920
Gear Ratio: 6.43

Miniature Aircraft Spectra-G with over 2000 flights since 2005
BH Hanson G270 3D Max motor
Century V2 speed torpedo pipe
Futaba BLS 255HV cyclics
BLS256HV tail
Helicommand HC3SX
Futaba 6203SB RX
Futaba GV-1 governor with RC stator gator
Jewel RC generator with 1700mah NiCD 5 cell battery backup
Radix 710 v2 FBL blades
Head speed settings: 1620/1720/1820
Gear Ratio: 7.08

Miniature Aircraft Whiplash Gas with over 200 flights since 2012
BH Hanson G270 3D Max motor
Century V2 speed torpedo pipe
Futaba BLS 255HV cyclics
BLS256HV tail
Helicommand HC3SX
Futaba 6203SB RX
Futaba GV-1 governor with RC stator gator
Jewel RC generator with 2700mah NiMH 5 cell battery backup
Radix 710 v2 FBL blades
Head speed settings: 1600/1750/1900
Gear Ratio: 6.89

Power switch: JR
TX used: Futaba 8FG
Fuel, oil, and ratio: 87 Octane gas, Pennzoil Marine full synthetic 32:1
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used)
: Trex 700N Helibug HB7-RC
Engine: Zenoah G290RC tuned by SpeedTec (30.5ccm)
Carburetor: Walbro 668B
Starter: Pullstarter
Clutch and clutch liner: Lynx clutch with Lynx liner
Pipe and muffler: Century Torpedo V2
Main Blades: SAB RedDevil 690
Tail Blades: SAB RedDevil 115
Main gear and pinion: 115T, 20T

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver:
Spektrum
FBL controller: Beast
Governor: -
Governor sensor: Stator Gator (cooming soon)
Head speed settings: not measured
Cyclic servos: Savox SC-1257TG
Tail servo: Savox SH-1290MG
Throttle servo: Futaba S3152
RX&Servo power : 4 NiMh 4500
Battery Monitor: TowerPro
Power switch: Multiplex
TX used: Spektrum DX7

Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio
: Aral Ultimate, Motul 800 Karting full synthetic
Fueling system: 5l + HK electric pump

Dry weight: 12.45 lbs (5.65kg)
Flying weight: 13.9lbs (6.3kg)

Flytime:
about 25Min
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Gasser #1

Mechanical:
Airframe Whiplash
Engine: Zenoah Toxic 270 with 2mm stroker crank (27.2cc)
Pipe and muffler: Various, mod RJX, V2, QD pipe
Main Blades: Edge 690 FB
Tail Blades: Edge 105
Main gear and pinion: 124T, 17T 7.29 ratio

Electrical and Electronic:Receiver: Helicommand
FBL controller: Helicommand
Governor: Futaba GV-1
Governor sensor: GV-1
Head speed settings: 1950 (14,200 engine) 2040 (14,900 engine) with QD
Cyclic servos: Torq 9180
Tail servo: Torq 9188
Throttle servo: DS610
RX&Servo power 2100 mah LiFe with Scorpion battery guard
Power switch: Perfect Regulator fail safe switch
TX used: 11X

Fuel: 50/50 VP C12 & Coleman
Fuel, oil, and ratio: Pennzoil full syn 32:1
Fueling system: $12 pump and a coleman can, 5 gallon steel containers for bulk storage

Dry weight: 12.6# depending in which exhaust is used
Flying weight: Depends on how much fuel is on board

Gasser #2

Mechanical:

Airframe Whiplash
Engine: Zenoah's - 270 (25.4) , 27.2, 28.5cc (only one at a time of course)
Pipe and muffler: Various, mod RJX, V2, QD pipe
Main Blades: Edge 690 FB
Tail Blades: Edge 105
Main gear and pinion: 124T, 17T and 18T 7.29 and 6.89 ratio

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: Helicommand
FBL controller: Helicommand
Governor: Futaba GV-1
Governor sensor: Stator Gator
Head speed settings: 1800 - 2150 depending oin engine & exhaust used
Cyclic servos: Futaba BLS451
Tail servo: Torq 9188
Throttle servo: DS610
RX&Servo power: 2100 mah LiFe with Scorpion battery guard
Power switch: Perfect Regulator fail safe switch
TX used: 11X

Fuel: 50/50 VP C12 & Coleman
Fuel, oil, and ratio: Pennzoil full syn 32:1
Fueling system: $12 pump and a coleman can, 5 gallon steel containers for bulk storage

Dry weight: 12.6# depending in which exhaust is used
Flying weight: Still depends on how much fuel is on board

Other setup details or interest: Fun to fly!
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used): MA Whiplash
Engine: TRM VX270TT
Pipe and muffler: temporary stock can muffler
Main Blades: Edge 693mm
Tail Blades: Edge 105mm
Main gear and pinion: 124t, 18t,

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: Jr 11 channel
FBL controller: HC3SX
Governor: Futuba gy701
Governor sensor: Stator gator
Head speed settings: currently 1600
Cyclic servos: Futuba bls255hv
Tail servo: Futuba bls256hv
Throttle servo: Futuba s9252
RX&Servo power (battery and regulator and generator if used): Thunder power 1900mah rx battery, no regulator.
Battery Monitor: thru telemetry
Power switch: JR deluxe
TX used: JR xg7

Fuel:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: 91 octane, Castrol power1 racing, 32:1
Fueling system: Jersey Modeler 5L
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Yeah its a sticky now. Also new addtion: Clutch and clutch liner. Please go back and add.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Heinzboss suggested adding Carburetor and Starting method. I put Carburetor under Engine and changed the fuel section to Fuel and Field Equipment and put Starting Method if there.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Mechanical:
Airframe: Miniature Aircraft Spectra-G, aft-facing engine
Engine: Zenoah G231PUH, stock
Carburetor: Walbro WT-643
Clutch and clutch liner: Stock Miniature Aircraft
Pipe and muffler: Stock "can" muffler
Main Blades: SAB 710mm
Tail Blades: RotorTech CF, 105mm
Main gear and pinion: 93T/13T, 7.15 ratio

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: Spektrum AR7000
FBL controller: -none-
Governor:-none-
Governor sensor: -none-
Head speed settings: 1600 RPM
Cyclic servos: Futaba S9252
Tail servo: Futaba S9254
gyro: Futaba GY401
Throttle servo: Spektrum DS821
RX&Servo power: Jewel generator/regulator, NiMH1500 MAh battery
Battery Monitor: VoltWatch
Power switch: Spektrum stock
TX used: Spektrum DX7

Fuel and field equipment:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: AVGAS 100LL, Motul 800 synthetic, 32:1
Fueling system: DU-BRO gas-rated hand pump
Starting Method: stock pull starter

Dry weight: 6 kg
Flying weight: 6.5 kg (24oz total fuel in two tanks).
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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how did this combination work for you?Receiver: AR7200BX
FBL controller: AB7200BX
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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how did this combination work for you?Receiver: AR7200BX
FBL controller: AB7200BX
It worked fine. No problems at all. I only switched to the BD 3SX because I wanted the rescue feature. The AR7200BX is much less heat sensitive than the 3SX. I didn't have any vibration related issues.
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Old 08-10-2013, 07:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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this is my setup.

Mechanical:
Airframe and conversion kit (if used): raptor 903d/ gasser m@@ conversion.
Engine: Zenoah 260puh hanson moded.
Carburetor: 643
Clutch and clutch liner: stock/stock raptor
Pipe and muffler: century v5
Main Blades: mavrikk widecord 690mm
Tail Blades: rotor tech 115mm
Main gear and pinion: 91/14

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: futaba 14ch fast 2.4
FBL controller: beast x
Governor: Futaba gy 701
Governor sensor: statergater
Head speed settings: shooting for 1700,1800, 1900 to start
Cyclic servos: hitec hs-7966hb
Tail servo: futaba bls 251
Throttle servo: futaba 3152
RX&Servo power (battery and regulator and generator if used): 6.0v nimh battery/ futaba reg. on tail servo/ jewels gen. (6.9v output from gen.)
Battery Monitor: Volt Magic// c-volt
Power switch: hobbico pro hd switch. ( the plug ends are now deans.)
TX used: futaba 8fgs

Fuel and field equipment:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: 87 Octane gas, Honda hp-2 oil at 32:1
Fueling system: 1.2 gallon can with hand pump.
Starting Method (if electric, post both stater and battery): removables pull starter/ top start with dynatron running 2 3cell lipos.

Dry weight: TBD
Flying weight: TBD

Other setup details or interest:[/QUOTE]

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Old 08-12-2013, 09:15 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Now, Im happy because can post my setup.

Mechanical:
Airframe: T-rex700N DFC with Helibug Kit
Engine: Zenoah TRM270TT
Clutch and clutch liner: Linx gas and stock align
Pipe and muffler: Torpedo V2
Main Blades: ALIGN 690mm
Tail Blades: Align 105mm
Main gear and pinion: 112T/16T, 7,00 ratio

Electrical and Electronic:
Receiver: Futaba FASSTest R7008SB
FBL controller: 3SX
Governor: GY701
Governor sensor: STATOR GATOR
Head speed settings: 1500 RPM - BREAK-IN after 1950/2050
Cyclic servos: outrage 9180
Tail servo: outrage 9188
gyro: 3SX - maybe use gy701
Throttle servo: futaba S3152
RX&Servo power: Life 2100
Battery Monitor: Futaba telemetry
Power switch: plug JST
TX used: Futaba 14SG

Fuel and field equipment:
Fuel, oil, and ratio: AVGAS, break-in - mineral oil, after Motul 800 synthetic, 40:1
Fueling system: manual pump
Starting Method: stock pull starter and hobbico starter with extention

Dry weight: ? kg
Flying weight: ? kg
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