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Old 03-14-2013, 01:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm thinking of taking the Warp 360 plunge here soon ..

Is there a suggested ESC that offers the utmost quality Governor and BEC or should I expect to need both an external Governor and BEC while operating at 6S?

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Old 03-14-2013, 01:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Seems a little over kill to me. I know a couple of people using YGE 40 including myself with internal BEC and no problems.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That's what I was thinking. 90 amps sounds to be way over kill..

I've heard YGE offers a quality product, but if anyone can comment on the quality and performance of their governor mode, would be greatly appreciated.

The goal here, to prevent head speed decay through discharge...

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Old 03-14-2013, 02:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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+1 for the YGE90 Lv

It's not about the 90a rating. 40a is about all your going to need BUT,

The stronger bec is the main reason I chose one for mine. Weight is not much more than a 40A actually helps with CG. Plus you end up with a very clean looking build.

Price difference is minimal

You could latter use it on a 500/550 heli

The internal bec is the best 6a/12a (2leads to rx)

With Gov store mode you can run different packs and have consistent performance.
Lots of people highly rate this gov

Soft start works well

It has a built In output for vbar gov if you prefer to run that.

Easy to programme with prog III card.


I would have liked to go kontronics but bec is not up to it and lots of people have destroyed them on this model, the bigger ones are to bulky and heavy to work.

CC is an option but again you need a bec,you may need to modify frame to make it fit or top mount it.

Lots of cheap ESC's can work well, but they all require external bec and gov for best performance.


Check out the picture thread and setup page and see how the setups look.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I really like the Hobbywing 40A platinum. It hasn't had really any flight time on the Warp yet, but I used it on another 450 for quite awhile for no problem with the BEC. I ended up using a gryphon polaris BEC with the Warp because I was worried that the larger disk and higher voltage would end up being too much for the internal BEC, but I plan on using the Gov on the ESC. It seemed to be working very well on the maiden hover I did, and had it working very well on the other 450.
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Hmmm, I had always thought it was best to use an ESC that was closely related to the continuous output of the motor for efficiency purposese, but that may not be the case with the better quality ESC's..?

The YGE 90LV is sounding interesting..

I do prefer a very clean look. Sounds as if the YGE 90LV has the BEC covered..My only concern at this point is how the Governor Performs.

Does anyone know whether the YGE Governor is smart enough to faciliate enough voltage to prevent head speed decay through discharge..?

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YGE Gov is Better than you

YGE 90LV all the way best ESC for the Warp.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yes with the yge you can set it up to have consistent head speed throughout the whole flight. Better still with gov stor mode you can have consistent head speed from your worst batteries to your best batteries.

Any gov can work well if it is set up correctly if you find that the gov is hitting 100% towards the end of flight on hard moves it is setup perfectly, if it starts bogging towards the end of flight you will need more head room. Use the correct gear ratio for the required headspeed will help, quality batteries and conservative flight times also help.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sounds like I'm going with the YGE..

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Old 03-14-2013, 05:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've actually got the YGE-60's with built in tach sensor now, I had them specially made.
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YGE Gov is Better than you

YGE 90LV all the way best ESC for the Warp.
YGE with a Fbl gov will be way better.
Using a 90amp esc on a 450 is going to hurt your performance. Why carry the extra weight. It is just not needed. Light flys right. IMO

Just use a smaller yge with a tiny buffer pack.
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Aside from the 20% odd of it going up in flames, any reasons not to go with a talon?
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Aside from the 20% odd of it going up in flames, any reasons not to go with a talon?
Not only weight, sheer size ... it would be nearly impossible to mount on this model.
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I've actually got the YGE-60's with built in tach sensor now, I had them specially made.
That's what I would go with along with a Gryphon Polaris bec.

I've got a MSH YGE 60 on mine, I needed to add the HW rpm sensor.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yge 60 Lv Weight. 35g
Plus add bec or buffer pack, or push its limits.

Castle Ice 50 weight 66.5g
No option on 6s must run a bec.
CC bec weight 11g. 5amp max 10amp max with good airflow

Yge 90lv weight 52/82g
Set and forget. Cables are overkill easy to replace with lighter/shorter ones.
Could easily reduce weight to under 70 grams.


Weight of other gear you may use
Mini vbar 11g
SK540 18g
Spectrum BX 18.6g
Icon 13g
Beast x 20g

Sat reciever 3.35g each.


So look at common setups beast x, CC ice 50 bec and sat your looking at around 100g

Premium setup yge 90lv plus mini vbar and sat Your going to be under 96g

Light weight setup under 60g


You can save weight in other areas, battery weights vary a lot the new thunder power G8's will be lighter, battery cable and esc cables can be trimmed to the right size. Choosing plastic case servos saves weight. Connector types and size.


I think though if you end up with in the recommended weight of the model it will be fine.


I think that kontronics and Yge and CC are starting to realise we want bigger becs and are heading that way, give it 18 months and we will be spoiled for choice.
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+2 I followed crf69 on this one. By the time I would add a good WR BEC to get the amps capacity, the weight and cost are no more than the YGE90LV. Since it still fits perfectly under the tray between the frames, it was my choice as well. Plus, I decided I could use it for an Atom 500 if needed. If they'd offered the 60 with a higher capacity BEC, I'd have done it. Of course 90 amps is overkill. Glad I opted for it now. My only suggestion is that if you're good with servo crimpers, I'd consider shortening the two leads to the receiver. They are very long and have to be gathered up and stuffed somewhere. I was able to conceal mine, but it would be ideal to shorten them. The solder joints are very accessible as well which would eliminate crimping new ends on, but I didn't want to cut the shrink wrap. Again, in case I choose to put it in a larger model later where the longer leads would be needed.
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yge 60 with robird gov. Is unbeatable.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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By the way... In case I wasn't clear...

I'm referring to the Governors capability to calculate sustained power per the batteries capability to allow for a sustained head speed throughout the battery's discharge. I'm not referring to how well it holds headspeed during load.

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