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Old 01-27-2008, 05:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Guys,

I don't know how many of you here agree with me but one thing I didn't like about the 500 was that I found the cyclic very slow and I've been thinking on how to improve cyclic speed.

Here's what I tried and liked: A set of KSJ 3mm paddles ($6) , these paddles weight 16gr , I lightened them down to 11.5g and I can tell you that the cyclic speed is now a lot faster than with the stock paddles.


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Old 01-27-2008, 05:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Slow!! Holy Moly! I set up my AIL / ELEV / Pitch like allways, give as much as no binding results on the swash. The result was 14 degrees collective and 14.5 degrees cyclic. It was so horrible fast, that I had to limit ist to 11 degrees... Did you use wrong servos horns, that are to short?
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Slow!! Holy Moly! I set up my AIL / ELEV / Pitch like allways, give as much as no binding results on the swash. The result was 14 degrees collective and 14.5 degrees cyclic. It was so horrible fast, that I had to limit ist to 11 degrees... Did you use wrong servos horns, that are to short?
Nope , proper servo arms and swash maxed out too , 13deg. of collective and 2850 H/S.

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Old 01-27-2008, 09:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yea it is very slow indeed. I do hope they make a lighter paddle as well perhaps a tad longer flybar to speed it up.
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Old 01-28-2008, 03:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Weird, I don't find it slow at all, quite the contrary, I had to tune it down, expo -30%....
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Old 01-28-2008, 04:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Have they got out any nice carbon ones yet to buy, read that the radix blades should be out in a month also.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Cool. Where do you get them? is there an other brand this can be done to? I dont have a 500 yet. but in know the stock set up is going to be slow for me.
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Weird, I don't find it slow at all, quite the contrary, I had to tune it down, expo -30%....
Hmmm... I'm just learning so I started at 25% expo on cyclic, but it was so sluggish I had to turn the expo off. Now it seems ok... not too twitchy at all. I only have @ 8 degrees swash though... or around there (tx limited), I need to measure to see what its at now.

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how much did the stock ones weight?
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how much did the stock ones weight?
9gr.

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Hmmm... I'm just learning so I started at 25% expo on cyclic, but it was so sluggish I had to turn the expo off. Now it seems ok... not too twitchy at all. I only have @ 8 degrees swash though... or around there (tx limited), I need to measure to see what its at now.
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What throttle curve are you running?

I am running 0-60-80-90-100 and +35 expo on my DX7, and I find very responsive indeed.

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i got wild fast +-15 with my DS3421s had to calm it down to +-10 and dial down Expo ,,, I have run to grow in thats for sure
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If they make a paddle in the 6-7 gram mark that woulod be much better for sure, it would speed up the cylic enough,,, I think....:wink:
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